r/Bitcoin: first-hand account of a 0.7 BTC drain
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1vewzn4/fuck_coldcard_holy_shit/
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A comment was edited to add a note about Coldcard being closed-source since 2021, and a new ethnic-slur comment appeared.
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parent: t1_p1qe4en author: KeyAdvanced1032 created_utc: 1785970211 -edited: false +edited: 1786226770 body: Seconded. + +Edit: Close-sourced since 2021. Yikes. comment: p1zfyrq parent: t1_p1km2f8 body: I am so sorry. +comment: p2kcbmy +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: lookn4a304 +created_utc: 1786238000 +edited: false +body: +Guess what nationality is behind CC. Every fucking time… + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count <live-count>Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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One new top-level comment from Agreeable_Bullfrog_7: "I am so sorry."
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That way, they could still frame it as a plausible mistake (because it initially was) while also profiting from it. +comment: p2246n4 +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: Agreeable_Bullfrog_7 +created_utc: 1786023508 +edited: false +body: +I am so sorry. + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count <live-count>Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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Two new comments: one says the victim was older and desperate and not the only one, another speculates someone inside the company could have quietly kept the issue secret to profit from it.
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body: Ledger is not better in the slightest, what are you thinking. +comment: p20uz63 +parent: t1_p1m1t6n +author: FinanceOnly4U +created_utc: 1786006548 +edited: false +body: +He is older and was desperate. But wasn’t the only one. You can search it on Reddit + +comment: p211prj +parent: t1_p1qe4en +author: HiddenoO +created_utc: 1786009868 +edited: false +body: +The issue is that if anybody inside the company found the issue at any point, they could've intentionally not disclosed it and planned how to extract the money safely. + +That way, they could still frame it as a plausible mistake (because it initially was) while also profiting from it. + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count <live-count>Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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Reddit added comments debating AI-assisted auditing, vendor liability, alternative wallets and alleged recovery-service scams.
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You surely have your own level of incredulity around this scenario, and that’s fine. That’s why it’s a judgement call, and it’s why I don’t judge anyone for how they wish to hold their bitcoin. There’s risks no matter where you turn, so your job is to determine which risk model you find most acceptable, and go there. +comment: p1xqzrs +parent: t1_p1o6ri1 +author: Aazimoxx +created_utc: 1785964724 +edited: false +body: +>Chatgpt is fairly bad at finding coding bugs compared to Claude + +ChatGPT is not a serious work tool, you're not comparing apples to apples mate. Codex is OpenAI's codebot (equivalent of Claude), and it's far more capable for a job like this. + +And bottom line is, even current locally-run models can and do find code flaws as obvious and egregious as this particular major coldcard failing. This could've been 'easily' found by an AI audit any time in the past 2-3yrs, and should've been picked up on by normal unit tests and human review processes when it was first enacted, within days or at least before any release. + +comment: p1xrglx +parent: t1_p1krk6p +author: TheCodifiedTrader +created_utc: 1785964856 +edited: false +body: +In the before times everyone I know marketed BTC as a "deregulated" currency and idk why they were trying to make it sound like a good thing. Now this shit happens and everyone is surprised Coinkite isn't crediting their customers? **No one can hold them accountable**, they're just trying to pass off the buck from their security flaw but without regulation what did ya think was gonna happen? + +comment: p1xs8uk +parent: t1_p1kub80 +author: TheCodifiedTrader +created_utc: 1785965077 +edited: false +body: +Source? How can they go bankrupt if they are not crediting any customers? Sure many will leave and they might have to shut their doors, but I haven't read of anything in stone yet. + +comment: p1xvxjr +parent: t1_p1xs8uk +author: ImPinkSnail +created_utc: 1785966126 +edited: false +body: +They are going to get sued and probably don't have the assets to defend themselves against dozens of litigants. They have no ability to sell products given the reputation damage. This company is obviously dead. Better to just close up shop and let a trustee auction off a few dozen computers and pallets of coldcards. + +comment: p1xwi94 +parent: t1_p1kskpc +author: Aazimoxx +created_utc: 1785966292 +edited: false +body: +>I just went with blockstream Jade and haven't had a problem yet. + +And these coldcard customers didn't have a problem (that they knew of) until a week ago... + +If there was ever an issue in the same ballpark found within the Blockstream product, then just like with Coldcard the main thing that'd save you is using a long and strong passphrase (not saved anywhere digitally). + +comment: p1xwlqt +parent: t1_p1kk0qw +author: TheCodifiedTrader +created_utc: 1785966320 +edited: false +body: +You have to pay for coldcard? + +comment: p1xx7ve +parent: t1_p1o0d1v +author: Aazimoxx +created_utc: 1785966499 +edited: false +body: +>They do this by identifying victims, then offering their services for a fee, then another fee, then another fee... + +And/or simply getting victims to supply enough identification info in order to carry out identity theft and get CC/loans in their name. + +comment: p1xy9uc +parent: t1_p1kzo6t +author: Aazimoxx +created_utc: 1785966802 +edited: false +body: +>An actual white hat isn't going to charge you for a recovery service. + +An actual white hat is also incredibly unlikely to commit what amounts to major theft in many jurisdictions, just to try and help randoms. + +The likelihood of it being a secondary scam nears 100%, and even if such a 'service' doesn't ask for a fee, they'll probably ask for identity information which is worth money to a nefarious party. + +comment: p1xyak1 +parent: t1_p1xx7ve +author: fllannell +created_utc: 1785966808 +edited: false +body: +Will be especially pertinent in this case because the scammers will tell desperate victims they need to verify their ownership of the bitcoin or coldcard hardware by providing those kinds of details, when in reality they cannot help the victims in any way. + +comment: p1xyteh +parent: t1_p1rys3w +author: Aazimoxx +created_utc: 1785966960 +edited: false +body: +I'm going to guess it's a life experience of yours that you find yourself laughing at jokes a few seconds after your peers. + +comment: p1y2p8i +parent: t1_p1u16v6 +author: Aazimoxx +created_utc: 1785968111 +edited: false +body: +>next ones ~~getting hacked~~ + +Coldcard weren't 'hacked', they put out a product with one of its major security features turned off. + +This is closer to a safe company releasing their uber awesome 3" thick steel-reinforced SuperSecure™ vault, but instead of having the combos all set randomly, they let their CEO do that part, and he alternated between the birthdates of his five pets, which were also easily discernible from public social media. + +Users who set their own combos (like setting a passphrase on an affected Coldcard) were still fine, but anyone who used their unit's preset could easily have all their stuff taken, as thieves only needed to try 5 possible combos. + +And far worse here since thefts could happen remotely and without any way of tracking down the property or thieves unless they seriously mess up. + +Trezor and Ledger can still have bugs, and an attacker with physical access to a much older device always has a chance of breaking some layers of protection or bypassing some things, but there's plenty of good reason to believe an unprivileged remote compromise of this nature could never happen on those. This was a very fundamental failure of code review and quality control. + +comment: p1y9kcq +parent: t1_p1qe4en +author: KeyAdvanced1032 +created_utc: 1785970211 +edited: false +body: +Seconded. + +comment: p1zfyrq +parent: t1_p1km2f8 +author: trufin2038 +created_utc: 1785984113 +edited: false +body: +Manifestly wrong. If people refuse to learn what mistake they made, this will keep happening. + +comment: p1zg73v +parent: t1_p1le9im +author: trufin2038 +created_utc: 1785984193 +edited: false +body: +Ledger is not better in the slightest, what are you thinking. + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count <live-count>Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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Reddit added comments about long-term cryptocurrency risk, the wallet screenshot's label, incident awareness and the trade-offs between self-custody and custodians.
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body: Yeah next ones getting hacked will be trezor and ledger, i’m out. Good luck to all. Rather use the money on a vacation and make memories than to dca 100$ every week to see it gone in seconds with no insurance or compensation. This changes the game. With AI, it’s only gonna get worse from here on out. +comment: p1u44df +parent: t1_p1krk6p +author: Rino-Sensei +created_utc: 1785929834 +edited: 1785936098 +body: +Bitcoin and Crypto might have more cycles to come. But the whole place is just a place for scammer to play and steal money, because it's unregulated. Come in the space if you want to play with money and trade. + +But now it's obvious that staying for a long term is stupid and only increase to chances to get fucked later on money you can't afford to lose. And before people come with excuses, saying "You won't have any issue if you do your own entropy", and for those people i'll only say. That's just another excuse before we find another exploit no one thought about. + +comment: p1v7hpm +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: Cryptotiptoe21 +created_utc: 1785941487 +edited: false +body: +I like how you changed the name of your wallet on sparrow. + +comment: p1vt5bn +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: BJJnoob1990 +created_utc: 1785946927 +edited: false +body: +What’s going on? I have just seen a couple posts about cold card issues? + +comment: p1wkm66 +parent: t1_p1ssn3g +author: IInsulince +created_utc: 1785953680 +edited: false +body: +Thank you for recognizing that there *is* a cost to these things, just not one you deem very high. Most people don’t even grant that much. + +That said, I understand your position on it. I’ve been subjected to a 60 day holding period before. Is it a big deal? I mean I did get my money eventually, right? Well yea, but imagine I needed those funds urgently. Fortunately I didn’t in my case, but if I had I would have been screwed due to forces outside of my control. + +As for government regulations, I’m more describing majorly unfair taxes levied against digital assets/unrealized gains, or something like a 6102 attack. It sounds unrealistic. It always does, until it happens. But it’s the idea that the government declares a state of emergency and is required to seize the digital assets of all citizens because it’s causing an economic crisis. They can do this so ridiculously easily through an exchange, ETF, or any centralized custodian, because they are a point of failure that can be targeted. If you self custody, they can’t take it from you without targeting you, which would require: + +1. Them even knowing you have any in the first place + +2. It being worth it economically and physically to go to your house and compel you to turn it over with force + +With a custodian, they simply need to deliver the mandate and they will fold. + +You surely have your own level of incredulity around this scenario, and that’s fine. That’s why it’s a judgement call, and it’s why I don’t judge anyone for how they wish to hold their bitcoin. There’s risks no matter where you turn, so your job is to determine which risk model you find most acceptable, and go there. + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count <live-count>Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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One comment's author and text were replaced by a deleted-account placeholder. The thread also gained comments about compensation expectations and reduced trust in hardware wallets and recurring bitcoin purchases.
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comment: p1kkbrj parent: t1_p1kk0qw -author: OldHamburger7923 +author: [deleted] created_utc: 1785809536 edited: false body: -Good luck with that. They'll get a coupon for 5 percent off another coldcard. Lawyers will get 25 million. +[deleted] comment: p1kktoe parent: t3_1vewzn4 body: But why should cold card be held responsible for a decentralized asset /s. People are trying to act like cold card shouldn't be held accountable for selling defective hardware. -comment: p1lbpgl -parent: t3_1vewzn4 -author: jimmyblow -created_utc: 1785819994 -edited: false -body: -genuinely gutting, especially knowing exactly what that money was earmarked for. if it's a real confirmed exploit, worth checking if a dedicated thread/discord is already forming for affected users, those things organize fast once enough people get hit the same way. really sorry - comment: p1lbqqi parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: krankovi Yes, holding periods can suck. But if it takes 3 days vs. instances like this where you literally lose everything, I don't think there's much of a comparison. +comment: p1tbg2h +parent: t1_p1obzo4 +author: Jaaziar +created_utc: 1785917033 +edited: false +body: +Not surprised if that happens. Seen this time and time again with other crypto platforms + +comment: p1u16v6 +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: Typical_Result_8962 +created_utc: 1785928726 +edited: false +body: +Yeah next ones getting hacked will be trezor and ledger, i’m out. Good luck to all. Rather use the money on a vacation and make memories than to dca 100$ every week to see it gone in seconds with no insurance or compensation. This changes the game. With AI, it’s only gonna get worse from here on out. + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count <live-count>Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The thread gained dismissive exchanges about bitcoin and a reply arguing that custody-related holding periods are preferable to losing everything in an incident.
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body: Set a "PASSPHRASE" folks please, small nusance with high upside. +comment: p1rys3w +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: kryptocrazy +created_utc: 1785896558 +edited: false +body: +Oh nooo, the digital form of currency that was originally created for drug dealers and other forms of digital crime / money laundering was stollen by crooks…. + +comment: p1s9ekh +parent: t1_p1rys3w +author: RelevantAmbition2433 +created_utc: 1785900255 +edited: false +body: +Oh no! My magical internet money magically disappeared 😢 + +comment: p1ssn3g +parent: t1_p1nrdo5 +author: ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive +created_utc: 1785908123 +edited: false +body: +> subjecting you to holding periods or complying with government regulations + +Be honest now... how much of an inconvenience was that really. + +Yes, holding periods can suck. But if it takes 3 days vs. instances like this where you literally lose everything, I don't think there's much of a comparison. + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count <live-count>Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The thread gained a clarification that the victim used the app only to check whether funds were stolen, plus replies expressing sympathy, assigning responsibility to Coinkite, and recommending a passphrase.
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body: "Not your keys; not tour cryto." They said. +comment: p1roblq +parent: t1_p1q6bh4 +author: RelevantAmbition2433 +created_utc: 1785893109 +edited: false +body: +I just used it to see if the funds were indeed stolen. Never used the app before this. + +comment: p1rqq8k +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: Yohbaba +created_utc: 1785893899 +edited: false +body: +Omg really feel for you brother, I was a victim of Celsius debacle but I've recovered quite a bit. It just sucks when these things happen and coinkite is 100% responsible for it. Horrible company that always marketed their product as a Bitcoin safe haven. So sorry this happened to you but it just infuriates me how grass root companies are so messed up. I can only imagine and I've been through some what similar thing. Hang in there man, hope this company finds a way to compensate you to whatever degree possible. + +comment: p1rr8ui +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: Yohbaba +created_utc: 1785894071 +edited: false +body: +Set a "PASSPHRASE" folks please, small nusance with high upside. + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count <live-count>Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained two comments, including a question about what signs transactions and a remark on self-custody.
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body: lol +comment: p1rhzy7 +parent: t1_p1kvwdh +author: Plus-Barber-6171 +created_utc: 1785891050 +edited: false +body: +And you sign your transactions with what exactly? + +comment: p1rl1ow +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: _GAT_in_the_HAT_ +created_utc: 1785892040 +edited: false +body: +"Not your keys; not tour cryto." They said. + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained a new reply saying "lol".
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body: Between the “not your keys, not your coin” crowd and the Coinbase haters, I considered moving my crypto to a cold wallet. But after this, I might as well leave them on an exchange. +comment: p1rdt4w +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: RedKard76 +created_utc: 1785889704 +edited: false +body: +lol + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained new participant comments.
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body: As a Celsius survivor, I can understand how you feel. What's appalling is that I was speculating, believing in something too good to be true, while using "cold" case was probably the most diligent crypto activity possible. Seeing this really makes me hesitant to buy back Bitcoin with the fraction of my money we got back. Hope you all get some justice. +comment: p1loabs +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: Knarz97 +created_utc: 1785825867 +edited: false +body: +Do your son a favor and save for your son’s college outside of an extremely speculative asset. This is not Bitcoin hate. I’d be saying the same thing if your savings were in Gold Bars or NVIDIA stock as well. College Savings is perfectly fine in a HYSA, CDs, Bonds, or if you must do something like ETFs in a 529 account. + +It’s irresponsible to literally gamble with his future. + comment: p1lph9t parent: t1_p1krk6p author: AppropriateCan4064 comment: p1mhjbh parent: t1_p1mbtyp -author: MiguelLancaster +author: [deleted] created_utc: 1785840050 -edited: false -body: -why are you asking a question that you already know the answer to? +edited: 1785885347 +body: +[deleted] comment: p1mhofw parent: t3_1vewzn4 comment: p1mi55n parent: t1_p1mhp7o -author: MiguelLancaster +author: [deleted] created_utc: 1785840307 -edited: false -body: -read any single one of the quite numerous posts/comment threads/articles about the attack and you'll know what their setup was - -no, there wasn't a passphrase +edited: 1785885337 +body: +[deleted] comment: p1milcr parent: t1_p1mi55n body: none of these companies could ever afford to reimburse the total value stored on their hardware. it’s just not possible economically +comment: p1qwm3g +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: ElRojo22 +created_utc: 1785884268 +edited: false +body: +Could you tell if the seed was created with RNG or you make roll dice? Also if you have a passphrase on it? + +comment: p1r0i0p +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: I_iron_my_t-shirts +created_utc: 1785885479 +edited: false +body: +Between the “not your keys, not your coin” crowd and the Coinbase haters, I considered moving my crypto to a cold wallet. But after this, I might as well leave them on an exchange. + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained new participant comments.
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I'm sure there are other efforts underway in light of the ColdCard hack. +comment: p1qtvl5 +parent: t1_p1q7mov +author: davvblack +created_utc: 1785883438 +edited: false +body: +none of these companies could ever afford to reimburse the total value stored on their hardware. it’s just not possible economically + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained 2 new comments.
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body: Decentralized? They’re a company who held your keys, right? And now can be held liable, too +comment: p1qiucm +parent: t1_p1p3672 +author: Fil3toFishy69 +created_utc: 1785880227 +edited: false +body: +Just getting started my boy. + +comment: p1qnmv7 +parent: t1_p1n663a +author: FauxReal +created_utc: 1785881592 +edited: false +body: +People are already auditing their code. + +[https://sqmagazine.co.uk/trezor-safe-7-chip-vulnerability-security-audit/](https://sqmagazine.co.uk/trezor-safe-7-chip-vulnerability-security-audit/) + +[https://www.nathanfox.net/p/trezor-seed-phrase-generation-security](https://www.nathanfox.net/p/trezor-seed-phrase-generation-security) + + +And at least one redditor trying to get a commuinity effort to audit general Bitcoin ecosystem code. + +[https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1vejkbl/help\_review\_bitcoin\_ecosystem\_code/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1vejkbl/help_review_bitcoin_ecosystem_code/) + + +I'm sure there are other efforts underway in light of the ColdCard hack. + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained 4 new comments.
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body: This is why I use IBIT etf for my bitcoin, so sorry and hope your 2.0 investments work out +comment: p1qbwpl +parent: t1_p1l261a +author: KungLa0 +created_utc: 1785878314 +edited: false +body: +It's been dead in the water for so long IMO. It is kept alive by speculation and "get rich quick" investors. + +comment: p1qcrr4 +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: GiveMeSomeOfThatWow +created_utc: 1785878545 +edited: false +body: +People, please stop using bitcoin as some sort of safety nets of your lives. +We're gonna see a number of suicides because of this + +comment: p1qe4en +parent: t1_p1le9im +author: captn03 +created_utc: 1785878911 +edited: false +body: +I highly doubt its an insider. I hear anyone could have reviewed their code in the last 4 years, why wasnt this revealed by the community ? This seems like a massive miss in their development process. No dedicated security or QA team reviewing the code, how can that happen in a company that specializes in hardware technology. + +comment: p1qh4to +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: Blake_a12 +created_utc: 1785879749 +edited: false +body: +Decentralized? They’re a company who held your keys, right? And now can be held liable, too + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained 4 new comments.
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body: I never got the benefit of cold wallets. To me it’s more secure to generate it yourself and take care of the private key how ever you want. Why do you need hardware? +comment: p1q6bh4 +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: ContentBlackberry0 +created_utc: 1785876806 +edited: false +body: +Why do people continue to use sparrow with all the fake apps and stuff that they have copying it, Makes no sense. I would personally stay away from all of those wallets. + +comment: p1q7mov +parent: t1_p1n663a +author: lubdeptrai +created_utc: 1785877156 +edited: false +body: +Both Trezor and Ledger have EAL certificates and have already been audited by professionals. + +Also, I believe that if anything happens, the company will take responsibility properly. Not like the shitty coinkite. + +comment: p1q8boy +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: Not-the-best-name +created_utc: 1785877344 +edited: false +body: +This is why we use banks that need to be insured and obey your country's laws. Its really sucks. + +comment: p1q97ec +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: MilkNutty +created_utc: 1785877584 +edited: false +body: +This is why I use IBIT etf for my bitcoin, so sorry and hope your 2.0 investments work out + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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Lol. Of course they did. They also encouraged people to use dice when generating their phrase. +comment: p1q32o2 +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: JWPapi +created_utc: 1785875945 +edited: false +body: +I never got the benefit of cold wallets. To me it’s more secure to generate it yourself and take care of the private key how ever you want. Why do you need hardware? + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained 3 new comments.
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go ahead and try +comment: p1puij8 +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: BlondDeutcher +created_utc: 1785873672 +edited: false +body: +Not “like” a loser. + +comment: p1pxfrn +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: CowDogRatGoose +created_utc: 1785874450 +edited: false +body: +Not to rub salt in the wound, and I'm sorry this happened to you. Totally sucky. But why didn't you use dice? + +comment: p1pxpy6 +parent: t1_p1kktoe +author: CowDogRatGoose +created_utc: 1785874524 +edited: false +body: +Lol. Of course they did. +They also encouraged people to use dice when generating their phrase. + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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body: Are you a total buffoon? What’s to stop me from generating a seed that belongs to someone else through the same attack vector, loading it onto a coldcard, and then pretending that I was the original owner when asking for funds to be returned? +comment: p1pm817 +parent: t1_p1ox6pj +author: Novice89 +created_utc: 1785871491 +edited: false +body: +Oh yeah, no it’s not happening. I was just saying even the best dream scenario people who lost out will still lose + +comment: p1pnpne +parent: t1_p1phujn +author: shoebertdoubert +created_utc: 1785871882 +edited: false +body: +you're an idіоt lol + +go ahead and try + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained 1 new comment.
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body: Yeah they'll use fully audited AI to do it as well 🙄 +comment: p1phujn +parent: t1_p1ly94p +author: FirstAmendmentIsDead +created_utc: 1785870362 +edited: false +body: +Are you a total buffoon? What’s to stop me from generating a seed that belongs to someone else through the same attack vector, loading it onto a coldcard, and then pretending that I was the original owner when asking for funds to be returned? + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained 1 new comment.
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body: did you think about me all night you had to come back to this comment? the next day? lmaoooo glad I got in your feelings that much +comment: p1pcfzf +parent: t1_p1lfpdu +author: marshyr3d1and +created_utc: 1785868990 +edited: false +body: +Yeah they'll use fully audited AI to do it as well 🙄 + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained 1 new comment.
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body: I find it hard to believe the company would survive this and have enough assets to pay everyone back, even at the current value or less. +comment: p1p3672 +parent: t1_p1o86dd +author: ilikeplayingthisgame +created_utc: 1785866685 +edited: false +body: +did you think about me all night you had to come back to this comment? the next day? lmaoooo glad I got in your feelings that much + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained 4 new comments.
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body: You can recover any compromised seed to the device. +comment: p1ovr4q +parent: t1_p1o9k4h +author: peterwilli +created_utc: 1785864860 +edited: false +body: +Yeah I think that proof of purchase + showing some form of control of the first address that sent money to the hacked one on ColdCard (i.e. sending money from the same exchange again or sending a new tx if the money came from an existing wallet) is the most reliable way though still not ideal + +comment: p1ow8kf +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: Sensitive-Rule-5563 +created_utc: 1785864979 +edited: false +body: +Reason number 1 million I will only hold my money FDIC insured. If it’s an amount I can’t fathom losing I’m not trusting it to one of these random startups. For all we know it’s an inside job. + +comment: p1owqcb +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: KewlKicks_ +created_utc: 1785865100 +edited: false +body: +iToddler btfo + +comment: p1ox6pj +parent: t1_p1ku1ci +author: AngusDagnabit +created_utc: 1785865212 +edited: false +body: +I find it hard to believe the company would survive this and have enough assets to pay everyone back, even at the current value or less. + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained 3 new comments.
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body: I wonder how that bug left undetected for 5 years on an open source repo +comment: p1olqph +parent: t1_p1kskpc +author: striata +created_utc: 1785862381 +edited: false +body: +There is literally no way for the original owners to prove ownership, so of course they cannot be reimbursed. + +comment: p1olwh3 +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: WarPlanMango +created_utc: 1785862421 +edited: false +body: +Man this really sucks. Why would they even release a product that they would say is safe if this can happen?? The company needs to be held accountable for even implementing and selling this unsecure device + +comment: p1omma9 +parent: t1_p1ly94p +author: striata +created_utc: 1785862599 +edited: false +body: +You can recover any compromised seed to the device. + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained 5 new comments.
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body: And for the scale involved here, "most of the $$$" is still probably less than 1% of the actual money stolen. There's no way Coldcard can afford to reimburse anywhere even close to this, they're just going to go broke and fold the company. +comment: p1oe8qn +parent: t1_p1o8288 +author: generichandel +created_utc: 1785860510 +edited: false +body: +It's always good to have interests in common with your spouse. + +comment: p1ofpb1 +parent: t1_p1oe8qn +author: Fil3toFishy69 +created_utc: 1785860876 +edited: false +body: +100% that's the motto of life. + +comment: p1oirsx +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: eimattz +created_utc: 1785861645 +edited: false +body: +what was your passphrase? + +comment: p1ojp09 +parent: t1_p1lattd +author: RandomKnifeBro +created_utc: 1785861875 +edited: false +body: +So even less chance anything is done. + +comment: p1ojxwy +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: Firm-Ad-2446 +created_utc: 1785861936 +edited: false +body: +I wonder how that bug left undetected for 5 years on an open source repo + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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9 new Reddit comments were posted, including H3adshotfox77 and Fil3toFishy69.
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body: And also, to complicate things more often than not scammers claim to be white hat hackers when they have no real ability to recover funds/assets and are really just acting out a secondary scam to victims of crime and other scams. They do this by identifying victims, then offering their services for a fee, then another fee, then another fee... until the victim finally (hopefully) gives up. +comment: p1o6ri1 +parent: t1_p1nubop +author: H3adshotfox77 +created_utc: 1785858618 +edited: false +body: +Some ai models hallucinate bugs and flaws and if you know nothing about code you won't know it hasn't found a real bug. + +Auditing with ai needs a human to verify the bug to he effective. + +Chatgpt is fairly bad at finding coding bugs compared to Claude which generally does better at it. + +But the process still requires human intuition and the ability to prompt it properly as well as audit the data after the ai. + +comment: p1o8288 +parent: t1_p1lftl8 +author: Fil3toFishy69 +created_utc: 1785858947 +edited: false +body: +Getting fucked daily. She loves cock. + +comment: p1o86dd +parent: t1_p1kwujo +author: Fil3toFishy69 +created_utc: 1785858975 +edited: false +body: +T R A D E R + +comment: p1o8ffn +parent: t1_p1lcgcl +author: Fil3toFishy69 +created_utc: 1785859039 +edited: false +body: +100% fucking peons + +comment: p1o8qdy +parent: t1_p1l5w1n +author: Fil3toFishy69 +created_utc: 1785859115 +edited: false +body: +Hope he loses his house and car next. Really put shit into perspective. + +comment: p1o8t2b +parent: t1_p1kktoe +author: Fil3toFishy69 +created_utc: 1785859134 +edited: false +body: +😆 🤣 😂 + +comment: p1o9k4h +parent: t1_p1lxolw +author: sluuuurp +created_utc: 1785859325 +edited: false +body: +There’s no way to prove you have the address of someone else has the private key right? I guess you could try to prove that you sent money from an exchange to this address and therefore it must be yours. + +comment: p1oa2jb +parent: t1_p1km2f8 +author: sluuuurp +created_utc: 1785859457 +edited: false +body: +No, I couldn’t be in their shoes, and they did do something wrong. I generated the randomness with dice like everyone should. + +I definitely have empathy though that they didn’t realize they had done something wrong. I admit there could be something I’ve done wrong without realizing it, in that sense I could be in their shoes one day. + +comment: p1obzo4 +parent: t1_p1kqq5c +author: TheDisapprovingBrit +created_utc: 1785859941 +edited: false +body: +And for the scale involved here, "most of the $$$" is still probably less than 1% of the actual money stolen. There's no way Coldcard can afford to reimburse anywhere even close to this, they're just going to go broke and fold the company. + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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1 new Reddit comment was posted, by fllannell, warning about secondary scams posing as white-hat recovery help.
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body: if it was an insider job those 100M might turn into 500M in btc in a few years then coldcard could pay the 100M back to its hacked users +comment: p1o0d1v +parent: t1_p1lhxen +author: fllannell +created_utc: 1785856983 +edited: false +body: +And also, to complicate things more often than not scammers claim to be white hat hackers when they have no real ability to recover funds/assets and are really just acting out a secondary scam to victims of crime and other scams. They do this by identifying victims, then offering their services for a fee, then another fee, then another fee... until the victim finally (hopefully) gives up. + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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4 new Reddit comments were posted, including IInsulince, Punterios and terobau.
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body: Should be using everything...AI, humans, whatever we can get. That's our hard earned money. +comment: p1nrdo5 +parent: t1_p1lvzap +author: IInsulince +created_utc: 1785854624 +edited: false +body: +If you think an exchange subjecting you to holding periods or complying with government regulations is unrealistic, then I’m sorry but you aren’t paying attention. This happens constantly to average folks. It’s happened to me, my dad, my friends in the space, it happens to people who don’t even use bitcoin but just trade stocks on places like Robin Hood. It happens to everyone, and not just those you turn your nose up to and say are bad actors. When you accept counterparty risk you can and will get burned by it. + +Once again it’s a tradeoff for you to judge, I’m not saying you shouldn’t buy the ETF, I’ve never once said that in this thread. I’m saying you should know what you are buying, because it isn’t Bitcoin. It’s Bitcoin exposure. And that’s fine if that’s all you truly want to worry about. + +comment: p1nth0h +parent: t1_p1mlphe +author: Punterios +created_utc: 1785855174 +edited: false +body: +Are you on the same planet as us? Fable has found vulnerabilities nobody else found for 10 years but nerd along and do your own thing. + +comment: p1nubop +parent: t1_p1mlphe +author: terobau +created_utc: 1785855396 +edited: false +body: +\> it will find you a lot of bugs and flaws that are not a problem + +What do you mean? Bugs and flaws are not a problem? + +comment: p1nxz8t +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: vrweensy +created_utc: 1785856358 +edited: false +body: +if it was an insider job those 100M might turn into 500M in btc in a few years then coldcard could pay the 100M back to its hacked users + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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2 new Reddit comments were posted, including wetokebitcoins,rmtdispatcher.
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body: Want a cold wallet? Write your private key on a piece of paper and put it in a safe. +comment: p1nls1j +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: wetokebitcoins +created_utc: 1785853136 +edited: false +body: +sorry for your loss bro. If it makes you feel better, many of us old timers have been scammed or hacked in the past. Don't let this speed bump crash your future. + +comment: p1noqy9 +parent: t1_p1n663a +author: rmtdispatcher +created_utc: 1785853926 +edited: false +body: +Should be using everything...AI, humans, whatever we can get. That's our hard earned money. + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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4 new Reddit comments were posted, including cozmicraven,KELVALL,ILurkReddi.
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body: Use Trezor. +comment: p1ngutk +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: cozmicraven +created_utc: 1785851792 +edited: false +body: +I hate reading all the posts about this hack. Cold storage isn't as cold as we were promised. I sure hope other companies like Ledger and Trezor and etc. are paying attention. + +At some point BTC holders will have to decide if the security of holding your coins at an exchange or even buying into an etf is worth trading your ownership for. Presumably corporate security (Coinbase, Kraken etc.) is better and they have private insurance to at least get you some of your value back in the event of a hack. I'm fully aware of the crappy cs all these companies share but all the wallet owners that got attacked here have nowhere to go. + +comment: p1nihln +parent: t1_p1ko8i6 +author: KELVALL +created_utc: 1785852244 +edited: false +body: +It's from the old cowboy movies...White hat good...Black hat bad. + +comment: p1nj04v +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: ILurkReddi +created_utc: 1785852385 +edited: false +body: +fuck + +comment: p1njwxp +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: kftnyc +created_utc: 1785852634 +edited: false +body: +Want a cold wallet? Write your private key on a piece of paper and put it in a safe. + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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42 new Reddit comments were posted, including keypusher,Background_Pause34,iloverunning11.
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parent: t1_p1kzp55 author: opossum_cz created_utc: 1785831267 -edited: false +edited: 1785838860 body: It was not compiler issue. -Somebody (cough Doc Hex cough) was check if the macro was defined instead of macro being set to 1. +Somebody (cough Doc Hex cough) was checking if the macro was defined instead of macro being set to 1. `#define MICROPY_HW_ENABLE_RNG (0)` body: OP, I sent you a DM +comment: p1m8tqr +parent: t1_p1l3eaf +author: keypusher +created_utc: 1785836080 +edited: false +body: +when you are dealing with cryptography, there are very few things more important than the RNG. this wasn’t a subtle off by one error deep in the code. not saying it was intentional, but it was at least negligent + +comment: p1m9t0g +parent: t1_p1kz140 +author: Background_Pause34 +created_utc: 1785836557 +edited: false +body: +Ok fair enough + +comment: p1macls +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: iloverunning11 +created_utc: 1785836820 +edited: false +body: +Fuckcoldcard tab 😀that’s the spirit. I’m so sorry for your loss, hope you can recover at least some of your funds.. Good luck! + +comment: p1mae37 +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: Acceptable-Ant-9231 +created_utc: 1785836838 +edited: false +body: +how did it happen? + +comment: p1masnz +parent: t1_p1kwn4f +author: monxas +created_utc: 1785837029 +edited: false +body: +You say that like you go through life trusting nobody. Thats impossible. Do you test your food for poison every time you eat? To you trust the tests you use to check if there’s poison on your food? Do you trust your car or you had it dismantled piece by piece to make sure they’re all good? And do you trust who put the car back together? + +comment: p1mbc6t +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: ivanjurman +created_utc: 1785837289 +edited: false +body: +Ummm it was never the best, Trezor was and always will be the best, most trusted hardware wallet + +comment: p1mbgw0 +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: Aeschbacher15 +created_utc: 1785837351 +edited: false +body: +This is turning out to be a real scandal lol + +comment: p1mbtyp +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: Bionic_Push +created_utc: 1785837525 +edited: false +body: +Did you have a passphrase? Every single post that claims to have lost with coldcard never answers when i ask this for some reason. + +comment: p1mecqh +parent: t1_p1masnz +author: DyehuthyTV +created_utc: 1785838677 +edited: false +body: +If you get food poisoning, it’s not as expensive as losing your Bitcoins (Self-custody your wealth, 'life savings') lol + +I think the immense laziness that people like you have doesn’t even allow them to put their priorities in order, regarding which things actually require you to do a minimum amount of “checks” (verify!) and research before using them (devices, wallets, exchanges, etc) + +comment: p1meka3 +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: BTC_90210 +created_utc: 1785838768 +edited: false +body: +Your keys, their coins + +comment: p1melmy +parent: t1_p1lu6ya +author: BTC_90210 +created_utc: 1785838785 +edited: false +body: +😂 + +comment: p1mfvde +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: magic-shroomman +created_utc: 1785839340 +edited: false +body: +lmao sooo glad I went with Trezor + +comment: p1mhfa8 +parent: t1_p1lryp2 +author: MiguelLancaster +created_utc: 1785840002 +edited: false +body: +I don't know how many coldcards exist in the world, but I highly doubt it's anywhere even remotely close to a million + +comment: p1mhjbh +parent: t1_p1mbtyp +author: MiguelLancaster +created_utc: 1785840050 +edited: false +body: +why are you asking a question that you already know the answer to? + +comment: p1mhofw +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: OscarCorterz_20 +created_utc: 1785840110 +edited: false +body: +Fuck them a hundred times + +comment: p1mhp7o +parent: t1_p1mhjbh +author: Bionic_Push +created_utc: 1785840120 +edited: false +body: +i don't know the answer. And also a lot of these posts seem fake. If they want to help the community why don't they at least share what their setup was? + +comment: p1mi55n +parent: t1_p1mhp7o +author: MiguelLancaster +created_utc: 1785840307 +edited: false +body: +read any single one of the quite numerous posts/comment threads/articles about the attack and you'll know what their setup was + +no, there wasn't a passphrase + +comment: p1milcr +parent: t1_p1mi55n +author: Bionic_Push +created_utc: 1785840494 +edited: false +body: +I did read it and there's a post here in reddit claiming that a wallet with a two word passphrase was hacked, you can look it up yourself. I want to read the answer from OP not from some other random user. + +comment: p1mj0wv +parent: t1_p1kzlzx +author: lsumoose +created_utc: 1785840672 +edited: false +body: +They did it with offline models. + +comment: p1mkuwp +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: SkidMarkShark +created_utc: 1785841415 +edited: false +body: +I pray you are fake, but when it comes down to it you should have done more research and learned how to actually store your BTC. + +Never let the wallet generate your seed words. + +Use a non BIP 39 uncommon words passphrase with Upper and Lower case letters with numbers and characters. + +The Coldcard or any wallet is just a keysigner. There is nothing wrong with the device. I'm sorry for your loss, but as soon as you realize your mistake the faster you'll move on + +comment: p1mlkq7 +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: pplgg4445 +created_utc: 1785841702 +edited: false +body: +The dream of bitcoin was mass adoption. Be your own bank. And while banks do get robbed mass adoption doesn’t mean everyone needs to be a cypherpunk security expert to use the technology safely. Wallet vendors took on much of that role and charged money for it. Coinkit needs to do better here in terms of restitution + +comment: p1mlphe +parent: t1_p1lgvtk +author: GiveMeYourSmile +created_utc: 1785841754 +edited: false +body: +OMG, guys, if you trust your safety to AI, you are even bigger idiots than the people who trust people. AI doesn't make you a security expert if you don't understand anything about it and can't find a bug yourself - AI will simply create the illusion of an audit - it will find you a lot of bugs and flaws that are not a problem, among which you won't even be able to identify the real one. I'm not saying AI is useless for security auditing, I'm saying it's useless for the average person, just like open source code. + +comment: p1mltcw +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: pplgg4445 +created_utc: 1785841797 +edited: false +body: +I wonder if Claude actually took the bitcoin and now controls the addresses involved. lol. Skynet begins + +comment: p1mmci6 +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: SoggyGrayDuck +created_utc: 1785842007 +edited: false +body: +Yeah it really is to the point you should hold no more than 10% on each hardware wallet just to be safe. + +Someone please convince me why people will still use hardware wallets in a generation or two? Especially if people get tax discounts by using things like holding in a Roth etf? + +They're going to turn it into fiat, they Probably already have full control over the value but I say we have to wait until the global stage clears itself up a bit more. + +comment: p1mpvih +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: iWearSkinyTies +created_utc: 1785843353 +edited: false +body: +If you get a lawyer to sue them yourself, you will get more than joining a class action. + +comment: p1mrqcx +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: comp21 +created_utc: 1785844020 +edited: false +body: +We all need to collectively learn the following truth: + +If someone screams loudly about themselves, they're not to be trusted and probably massive sacks of shit. + +The crap pile from Celsius, Voyager, coldcard, Andrew Tate, most of our gov, TV preachers... + +comment: p1mryub +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: McBurger +created_utc: 1785844104 +edited: false +body: +*“And since it’s decentralized, there’s no recourse for getting any of it back. It’s gone.”* + +*“Where’s the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up?”* + +There’s your recourse, my friend. + +comment: p1ms90d +parent: t1_p1lb6k1 +author: Satelite_of_Love +created_utc: 1785844206 +edited: false +body: +Not a bad point and maybe it just me that's changed. Im actually a member of the mt got class action and remembered that well... but this one hits different. + +I dunno could just be my risk tolerance for shenanigans has lowered as ive gotten older or my personal use case for crypto has changed since I dont look at it as a currency at ALL anymore where in the distant past I would. + +Not exactly sure. What I know for SURE it this sucks for those invovled. + +comment: p1msd0e +parent: t1_p1mlphe +author: uniicorn77 +created_utc: 1785844246 +edited: false +body: +right you are correct, thanks for correcting me + +comment: p1msrpt +parent: t1_p1koz0y +author: pjb1999 +created_utc: 1785844391 +edited: false +body: +Yeah this whole thing has sort of turned me off to crypto maybe for good. I started buying BTC and some other coins nearly 10 years ago but Im seriously thinking about selling at least half of everything I have at the next BTC ATH and just dumping that money into my VOO ETF. The stress of self custody is just too much honestly. Especially after something like this happens. + +comment: p1mtrep +parent: t1_p1krk6p +author: pjb1999 +created_utc: 1785844739 +edited: false +body: +Yep I just made a comment about this. I'm likely selling at least half of my BTC at the next ATH and putting that money into my ETFs. + +comment: p1muus2 +parent: t1_p1l2430 +author: stranix13 +created_utc: 1785845124 +edited: false +body: +If its government/conspiracy related its a scheme to help push etfs and get people away from self custody, and for that its not so much about the total amount stolen but the public perception + +comment: p1n2cjp +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: Huge-Artichoke-1376 +created_utc: 1785847571 +edited: false +body: +I won’t lie, being lazy and just keeping it on River because I didn’t trust a wallet made sense. + +comment: p1n2qyd +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: LamarJacksonIsMyHero +created_utc: 1785847697 +edited: false +body: +Start buying VOO + +comment: p1n41l1 +parent: t1_p1ku4tc +author: RefrigeratorRough727 +created_utc: 1785848095 +edited: false +body: +Sorry for you man. Through which exchange did you do dca every week for 100? + +comment: p1n5s4f +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: DarthBen_in_Chicago +created_utc: 1785848620 +edited: false +body: +I’m sorry for your loss. I can feel your anger and frustration. Just know you are not alone which I realize doesn’t solve this for you. + +comment: p1n663a +parent: t1_p1lfpdu +author: hrad95 +created_utc: 1785848738 +edited: false +body: +I use Trezor. Since their code is open-source, shouldn't we, the community, be using AI to audit it? + +comment: p1n6hhq +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: nakedlunch2 +created_utc: 1785848834 +edited: false +body: +Could have saved a lot of money by switching to Geico + +comment: p1n8npl +parent: t1_p1kskpc +author: ZeroDollars +created_utc: 1785849473 +edited: false +body: +A typical business of this size wouldn't have the assets to cover a tiny fraction of the losses. And their IP and inventory is worthless now. They will declare bankruptcy and customers will be left holding the bag. + +Only way it could turn out different is if, given the industry, they happened to be holding a significant cache of bitcoin at the legal entity level and it could be liquidated to pay damages. Very improbable though. Would mean the owners were multimillionaires many times over and still were f'ing around with this little e-commerce business. + +comment: p1n9a1l +parent: t1_p1m1t6n +author: notanigaa +created_utc: 1785849653 +edited: false +body: +13 year pro trader ig + +comment: p1n9rkf +parent: t1_p1kyw0b +author: ctzn2000 +created_utc: 1785849794 +edited: false +body: +Look at what Coldcard currently claims below :) + +"COLDCARD is a Bitcoin-only hardware wallet made by Coinkite since 2017. It protects private keys with dual secure elements, supports air-gapped signing, and runs open-source firmware you can verify yourself. It can also generate and vault BIP-39/BIP-85 seeds, recovery phrases, passwords, and private notes for other wallets. Unlike Trezor and Ledger, COLDCARD supports only Bitcoin to reduce the attack surface. No companion app, no cloud account." + +**TRUSTED BY BITCOINERS, EDUCATORS, AND INDEPENDENT REVIEWERS** + +[**“Passed all 10 tests”**](https://walletscrutiny.com/hardware/coldcardQ1/) +[**WALLETSCRUTINY**](https://walletscrutiny.com/hardware/coldcardQ1/) + +comment: p1nc7gt +parent: t3_1vewzn4 +author: Cerlog +created_utc: 1785850494 +edited: false +body: +Use Trezor. + more-stub: parent t1_p1l2enr count 0Extracted text as captured
post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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post: 1vewzn4 author: RelevantAmbition2433 created_utc: 1785808711 title: Fuck ColdCard, holy shit. body: .7 bitcoin gone. Years of DCAing with money that could have been invested in other ventures gone because of a stupid exploit from a company that was touted as being "the best" to keep coins safe. My .7 bitcoin could have been spent on so many useful things. It was my safety net. It was the hope of a down payment on a house. It was my sons future college tuition. Now I'm sitting on the sidelines like a loser. I'm livid. And since it's decentralized, there's no recourse for getting any of it back. It's gone. Fuck. I hope whoever stole my money gets what's coming to them. Happy to provide proof if there are any of you who believe this is another shitpost or karma farm or whatever. Where's the class action lawsuit? How do I sign up? Edit: Here's proof: https://preview.redd.it/k57fkfuwt9hh1.jpg?width=2364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca4c3ce0ef6390a3c237f37a4d0f09563bfec3c4 comment: p1kimq4 parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: AnswerFeeling460 created_utc: 1785808966 edited: false body: What do you hope to earn of a lawsuit? comment: p1kj4ec parent: t3_1vewzn4 author: Quirky-Reveal-1669 created_utc: 1785809133 edited: false body: Sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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