r/Bitcoin: surprise that the bitcoin price held up through incident week
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不知道，可能年底吧
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edited: false body: 不知道，可能年底吧 + +comment: p1wp8s5 +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: Equivalent_Offer_67 +created_utc: 1785954822 +edited: false +body: +Because the price is manipulated to hell and back. + +Big players will raise the price, or drop the price when they feel like it.Extracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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body: Most people are not even aware lmao -comment: p1n4ihp -parent: t1_p1lgopc -author: trademarktower -created_utc: 1785848237 -edited: false -body: -People with money hold their crypto along with all their other assets like 401k with OG brokers like Fidelity which have fraud protection guarantees. - comment: p1n53w7 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Key-Session6216 edited: false body: Coldcard only a Black Swan on Reddit. It’s a tiny drop in the sea of Bitcoin + +comment: p1rw14a +parent: t1_p1li3fh +author: Hugh108 +created_utc: 1785895646 +edited: false +body: +This bear market is like a stroll in the park compared to 2018, 2019 and the first half of 2020! + +comment: p1rz2d3 +parent: t1_p1nosj0 +author: ximogui +created_utc: 1785896651 +edited: false +body: +True + +comment: p1rzdgp +parent: t1_p1ngcqr +author: ximogui +created_utc: 1785896753 +edited: false +body: +Each time, somebody somewhere gets it right. Let me shoot for my moment in the sun! + +comment: p1rzg9y +parent: t1_p1oqi3l +author: ximogui +created_utc: 1785896779 +edited: false +body: +不知道，可能年底吧Extracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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edited: false body: It was an inside job. + +comment: p1r7ivi +parent: t1_p1l5789 +author: nick_c8_vegas +created_utc: 1785887688 +edited: false +body: +Coldcard only a Black Swan on Reddit. It’s a tiny drop in the sea of BitcoinExtracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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comment: p1lbkro parent: t3_1vezvlv -author: ThreeTonChonker +author: [deleted] created_utc: 1785819936 edited: false body: -The result of events like this is that people realize the problem isn’t Bitcoin, it’s the products surrounding Bitcoin. - -If the hackers had only stolen Ethereum, would that mean the death of ETH? - -No. The coins are not getting hacked. Inferior third party products made for the coins are getting hacked. - -It means BTC is scarce, valuable, and requires defense. Thus the price reflects that and if anything it will go up. +[removed] comment: p1lbmk7 parent: t1_p1lbant body: It is a hard year for Bitcoin for sure… +comment: p1lx2i3 +parent: t1_p1l5789 +author: Rino-Sensei +created_utc: 1785830214 +edited: false +body: +"Coldcard was a black swan event" + +No it isn't ... Because this news didn't go mainstream ... + comment: p1lxb8d parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Thin_Needleworker795 body: [removed] +comment: p1mygz3 +parent: t1_p1l5avj +author: JTHM8008 +created_utc: 1785846333 +edited: false +body: +And Cramer said he was selling all of his…. Or something. + +comment: p1n0at3 +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: Aggravating-Owl-7050 +created_utc: 1785846923 +edited: false +body: +well I think because we are in our reddit Bubble, I nearly heard nothing about in besides this subreddit + comment: p1n0f8l parent: t1_p1lsh0t author: Aggravating-Owl-7050Extracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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body: Seller exhaustion and dead bear momentum. There is no hope left for bears. We either go sideways from here or take off from demand surplus at some point. +comment: p1m3c5f +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: lexicon_riot +created_utc: 1785833364 +edited: false +body: +It's because Cramer sold his BTC, inverse Cramer is never wrong + comment: p1m7nfu parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Simple_Window21 body: Feel so bad for anyone holding on cold card. Could this possibly be black swan of the bear ? Expecting lower lows from here til October personally +comment: p1o7s0b +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: JordanPetterPans +created_utc: 1785858874 +edited: false +body: +Because it literally have nothing to do with Bitcoin lol + comment: p1o93iy parent: t3_1vezvlv author: originalgainster body: [removed] +comment: p1q1owa +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: FreezedPeachNow +created_utc: 1785875576 +edited: false +body: +Does the rest of the world even know of, or understand the severity of, the cold card hack yet? + +And by the rest of the world, I mean people who don't think about Bitcoin 24/7 outside of this sub or Bitcoin Twitter or podcasts? + +I tried to make a similar post about this on Sunday and the moderators didn't allow it for whatever stupid reason. + comment: p1q9cpc parent: t1_p1puhpn author: FuturePrimitiv3Extracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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created_utc: 1785846198 edited: false body: -I feel this, bur part of me likes the possible pumps institutional money can give it. Like Fidelty and Black Rock, they want the clarity act to pass. Not because they care about us lol, but it helps them. I'd honestly prefer governments leave it alone too, but we need to realize governments will do whatever the fuck they want. Regardless bitcoin will carry on, tick tok.. +[removed] comment: p1n0f8l parent: t1_p1lsh0t created_utc: 1785873666 edited: false body: -Retail is broke and institutional money is what drives btc at the moment. Im not saying that it's a good thing. Yes it's more manipulatable but maybe I already see how bitcoin is flawed in that way. Im only here to make a profit on it, down vote me if you want. I'll still hold some long term and sell some when institutional money comes in. +[removed] comment: p1pwj7k parent: t1_p1nebg7 created_utc: 1785874210 edited: false body: -For sowm reason I doubt that. Trump and his sons have a shared interest in BTC, they worn allow anything that prevents that interest to hurt BTC. Not because they care about us, like I said they aren't going to pass something that will hurt their pocket books. +[removed] comment: p1q9cpc parent: t1_p1puhpn edited: false body: 70 million for bitcoin is a drop in the bucket. And it was not like it was all sold it was just moved either way amount would barely move it 1-2% + +comment: p1qkria +parent: t1_p1pwj7k +author: FuturePrimitiv3 +created_utc: 1785880768 +edited: false +body: +They have no interest in BTC other than how they can profit from it in the short term. It's just another scam to them, nothing more. + +comment: p1qolnn +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: assclown356 +created_utc: 1785881872 +edited: false +body: +It was an inside job.Extracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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edited: false body: 😂 no down vote from me! I'm not a BTC "true believer", just a nerd who thinks the technology of BTC is interesting, but still struggles to find a valid use case. + +comment: p1qdzc1 +parent: t1_p1lgjce +author: Gloomy_Dependent_985 +created_utc: 1785878873 +edited: false +body: +It’s not the physical market impact that matters, but the phycological impact. The fact that it’s been a number of days and the market is flat is very bullish imo + +comment: p1qe8q3 +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: ContentBlackberry0 +created_utc: 1785878945 +edited: false +body: +70 million for bitcoin is a drop in the bucket. And it was not like it was all sold it was just moved either way amount would barely move it 1-2%Extracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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edited: false body: For sowm reason I doubt that. Trump and his sons have a shared interest in BTC, they worn allow anything that prevents that interest to hurt BTC. Not because they care about us, like I said they aren't going to pass something that will hurt their pocket books. + +comment: p1q9cpc +parent: t1_p1puhpn +author: FuturePrimitiv3 +created_utc: 1785877624 +edited: false +body: +😂 no down vote from me! I'm not a BTC "true believer", just a nerd who thinks the technology of BTC is interesting, but still struggles to find a valid use case.Extracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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comment: p1my2au parent: t1_p1lklla -author: EnvironmentalYard467 +author: [deleted] created_utc: 1785846198 edited: false body: edited: false body: That's a good sign + +comment: p1puhpn +parent: t1_p1n77dc +author: [deleted] +created_utc: 1785873666 +edited: false +body: +Retail is broke and institutional money is what drives btc at the moment. Im not saying that it's a good thing. Yes it's more manipulatable but maybe I already see how bitcoin is flawed in that way. Im only here to make a profit on it, down vote me if you want. I'll still hold some long term and sell some when institutional money comes in. + +comment: p1pwj7k +parent: t1_p1nebg7 +author: [deleted] +created_utc: 1785874210 +edited: false +body: +For sowm reason I doubt that. Trump and his sons have a shared interest in BTC, they worn allow anything that prevents that interest to hurt BTC. Not because they care about us, like I said they aren't going to pass something that will hurt their pocket books.Extracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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edited: false body: Best wishes to all of you who are buying now! If this is the bottom, you will catch it and I will be missing out. Is the normal cycle broken? It just might be...The nature of past cycles suggest a plunge to 30K area should still happen toward November and if it doesn't then things have indeed changed and I'll be missing this altogether. If price does drop to around 30K near the end of the year I will be joining the game then!! + +comment: p1pksja +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: GIGAbtcHodl +created_utc: 1785871121 +edited: false +body: +That's a good signExtracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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edited: false body: Holds true. Last year we had tons of great BTC news and it didn't move much. This year tons of bad BTC news and it didn't move much. BTC is now a stable coin. + +comment: p1p92eu +parent: t1_p1na372 +author: MrKittenz +created_utc: 1785868146 +edited: false +body: +Haha true + +comment: p1pa81q +parent: t1_p1lb884 +author: mlhender +created_utc: 1785868433 +edited: false +body: +Dems feel they have a better chance of passing their version of the clarity act with much much higher capital gains tax. They’re going to pass on it this year + +comment: p1pazs0 +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: Ok-Refrigerator7284 +created_utc: 1785868626 +edited: false +body: +Best wishes to all of you who are buying now! If this is the bottom, you will catch it and I will be missing out. Is the normal cycle broken? It just might be...The nature of past cycles suggest a plunge to 30K area should still happen toward November and if it doesn't then things have indeed changed and I'll be missing this altogether. If price does drop to around 30K near the end of the year I will be joining the game then!!Extracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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edited: false body: i mean we have numbers. ~1200 addresses were hacked. I assume most people using a cold card will have relied on the rng for the wallet creation. That's less than 1200 affected users world wide. crazy low imho. + +comment: p1p7c8r +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: locotx +created_utc: 1785867716 +edited: false +body: +Holds true. Last year we had tons of great BTC news and it didn't move much. This year tons of bad BTC news and it didn't move much. BTC is now a stable coin.Extracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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edited: false body: 什么时候能涨回来 + +comment: p1ozm0z +parent: t1_p1lxb8d +author: Express_Living2264 +created_utc: 1785865804 +edited: false +body: +i mean we have numbers. ~1200 addresses were hacked. I assume most people using a cold card will have relied on the rng for the wallet creation. That's less than 1200 affected users world wide. crazy low imho.Extracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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edited: false body: It’s not what I think lol. It’s facts + +comment: p1oqi3l +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: NoInstruction892 +created_utc: 1785863570 +edited: false +body: +什么时候能涨回来Extracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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edited: false body: Don’t remind me I’m just trying to make it to the end of this year lol + +comment: p1oitbu +parent: t1_p1ntf2u +author: quintavious_danilo +created_utc: 1785861655 +edited: false +body: +Same here. Not making that mistake twice. I kinda hate looking at my tiny purchase from 2022. 🙈 + +comment: p1olqxe +parent: t1_p1l5avj +author: derbyfan1 +created_utc: 1785862383 +edited: false +body: +$60k is the new $3k + +comment: p1om8xs +parent: t1_p1oagke +author: korean_kracka +created_utc: 1785862507 +edited: false +body: +It’s not what I think lol. It’s factsExtracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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8 new Reddit comments were posted, including originalgainster, TheHollowed_Knight and Different_Umpire9003.
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edited: false body: Feel so bad for anyone holding on cold card. Could this possibly be black swan of the bear ? Expecting lower lows from here til October personally + +comment: p1o93iy +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: originalgainster +created_utc: 1785859208 +edited: false +body: +this is pretty much the bottom. we might see a little lower for brief period but good luck catching that. + +comment: p1oagke +parent: t1_p1o6dgo +author: TheHollowed_Knight +created_utc: 1785859555 +edited: false +body: +Sure, I honestly don’t give a shit what you think anyways. + +comment: p1objko +parent: t1_p1na372 +author: Different_Umpire9003 +created_utc: 1785859829 +edited: false +body: +Yeah, I know. I briefly worked in real estate and showed a house to a bitcoin millionaire in maybe 2019? He told me he’d made 4 million + +comment: p1obqr8 +parent: t1_p1ntf2u +author: Different_Umpire9003 +created_utc: 1785859879 +edited: false +body: +Yeah I mean I’m DCA-ing but it’s hardly anything. Oh well. + +comment: p1oc018 +parent: t1_p1obqr8 +author: TheRadishBros +created_utc: 1785859944 +edited: false +body: +When it’s $1m per coin your DCA will look much more impressive. + +comment: p1ocfqw +parent: t1_p1l5avj +author: MainConcentrate2707 +created_utc: 1785860054 +edited: false +body: +Too optimistic i smell lower + +comment: p1oe4lg +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: cryptoopotamus +created_utc: 1785860481 +edited: false +body: +An unknown hardware wallet that only redditors used getting hacked isn’t even remotely close enough to move the needle for BTC. + +comment: p1oeksq +parent: t1_p1lyb54 +author: HungryCurrent7901 +created_utc: 1785860595 +edited: false +body: +Don’t remind me I’m just trying to make it to the end of this year lolExtracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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9 new Reddit comments were posted, including Far-Afternoon-5121, Objective_Digit and MrMpeg.
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This one hit me way differently than the Celsius, BlockFi shit of a few years back. These were people who did what everyone tells them to do. + +comment: p1o1mku +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: Far-Afternoon-5121 +created_utc: 1785857309 +edited: false +body: +Bottom in … + +comment: p1o4dlk +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: Objective_Digit +created_utc: 1785858015 +edited: false +body: +I don't think news really affects the price as much as people think. + +comment: p1o4i7n +parent: t1_p1n9nzh +author: MrMpeg +created_utc: 1785858048 +edited: false +body: +That would be the most logical thing but I started to buy a bit every month just in case. I never catched the bottom so far and missed out while waiting for confirmation that we were in a new bullrun. + +comment: p1o4mqh +parent: t1_p1nigut +author: TheHollowed_Knight +created_utc: 1785858081 +edited: false +body: +Even if it does, it’s nothing like previous cycles so again, a walk in the park for OG hodlers + +comment: p1o4mzh +parent: t1_p1lyh0e +author: Objective_Digit +created_utc: 1785858082 +edited: false +body: +No chance. I think the miners are barely surviving. + +comment: p1o4nvy +parent: t1_p1lyh0e +author: Objective_Digit +created_utc: 1785858089 +edited: false +body: +No chance. I think the miners are barely surviving. + +comment: p1o6dgo +parent: t1_p1o4mqh +author: korean_kracka +created_utc: 1785858520 +edited: false +body: +But you have no idea how bad it can get. You’re just pulling all this out your ass + +comment: p1o6kc2 +parent: t1_p1nyvea +author: Acrobatic_News_4860 +created_utc: 1785858568 +edited: false +body: +This is the first time i actually got nervous ever + +comment: p1o77p7 +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: BarnacleOwn604 +created_utc: 1785858732 +edited: false +body: +Feel so bad for anyone holding on cold card. Could this possibly be black swan of the bear ? Expecting lower lows from here til October personallyExtracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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2 new Reddit comments were posted, including 2LostFlamingos, who contrasted the incident with earlier exchange failures.
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edited: false body: I wish I’d bought more then, which is exactly why I’m buying more now! + +comment: p1nu6ax +parent: t1_p1mp9h7 +author: bongosformongos +created_utc: 1785855357 +edited: false +body: +Then go google buddy + + +comment: p1nyvea +parent: t1_p1mkgmk +author: 2LostFlamingos +created_utc: 1785856590 +edited: false +body: +Indeed. + +This one hit me way differently than the Celsius, BlockFi shit of a few years back. + +These were people who did what everyone tells them to do.Extracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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4 new Reddit comments were posted, including Just_Bluebird_5268, IndependenceTop6501 and mrlandlord.
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edited: false body: Why do you think it can only get better? It can get much much MUCH worse lol + +comment: p1nosj0 +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: Just_Bluebird_5268 +created_utc: 1785853938 +edited: false +body: +SPY ripping to new highs while cryptocoin stays flat? I mean it's not great is it + +comment: p1np27z +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: IndependenceTop6501 +created_utc: 1785854010 +edited: false +body: +A lot of these hacks are going to wallets that don't know how to withdraw and cash out without getting caught. Some will obviously, but much of it will be frozen for years to come. + +comment: p1nqi8q +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: mrlandlord +created_utc: 1785854394 +edited: false +body: +I am gonna feel even worse for people when BTC goes back to 100K + +comment: p1ntf2u +parent: t1_p1mmip1 +author: XXsforEyes +created_utc: 1785855160 +edited: false +body: +I wish I’d bought more then, which is exactly why I’m buying more now!Extracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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3 new Reddit comments were posted, including korean_kracka,lumiosengineering.
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edited: false body: It's good to see that someone at least has put some thought into this. Etfs do the same thing to stocks, they get very stretched thin the value gets manipulated heavily by large institutions. BTC would be no different and it would be ggs to breaking it's all-time high if the government passes the clarity act + +comment: p1ngcqr +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: korean_kracka +created_utc: 1785851655 +edited: false +body: +Everyone wants to call the bottom so badly lol. The bottom is in when people like you give up on calling the bottom + +comment: p1nib03 +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: lumiosengineering +created_utc: 1785852193 +edited: false +body: +This is very similar to the previous bottom, i hate to say it. But then youll start seeing insane pumps out of nowhere wondering why is this happening, makes no sense. And it doesnt. But this is the market doing its thing. + +comment: p1nigut +parent: t1_p1lsdd8 +author: korean_kracka +created_utc: 1785852238 +edited: false +body: +Why do you think it can only get better? It can get much much MUCH worse lolExtracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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8 new Reddit comments were posted, including UpstairsCheetah235,Astronaut6735,revanevan7.
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edited: false body: If CLARITY helps institutions do you think thats gonna helps retail BTC investors? I'm gonna go out on a very short limb here and suggest that inviting corporate and institutional money only makes BTC more manipulatable under a thin the veil of legitimacy which will generate more volatility (more organized pump and dumps) and ultimately hurt BTC in the long run. + +comment: p1n80y0 +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: UpstairsCheetah235 +created_utc: 1785849290 +edited: false +body: +Feels bottomy. However, hoping bitcoin stays low so strategy has to greatly reduce their stake over the next few years. And I can continue DCA at $60k instead of $120k. + +comment: p1n9nzh +parent: t1_p1m255j +author: Astronaut6735 +created_utc: 1785849765 +edited: false +body: +My 3rd rodeo too. I was already expecting bottom to be closer to the end of the year, and nothing has changed my mind about that. + +comment: p1na372 +parent: t1_p1lyb54 +author: revanevan7 +created_utc: 1785849888 +edited: false +body: +Ha $150 in 2015 + +comment: p1na4ut +parent: t1_p1lbant +author: massn87 +created_utc: 1785849901 +edited: false +body: +By that logic, the same can be said about bull markets + +comment: p1nbia4 +parent: t1_p1li3fh +author: Difficult-Repair1295 +created_utc: 1785850295 +edited: false +body: +This is nothing. 2015 was terrible. You literally thought Bitty was over and everyone arguing over block size. Crazy how they got the UASF passed and then Roger and Jihan had a tantrum. + +comment: p1ncq7b +parent: t1_p1l9dzx +author: confuzzledfather +created_utc: 1785850643 +edited: false +body: +And yet the magic internet money is still worth $60k+ each. + +comment: p1ncvd9 +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: Saibazz +created_utc: 1785850684 +edited: false +body: +BTC holding up while everything else struggles? That's strength + +comment: p1nebg7 +parent: t1_p1n77dc +author: Novel-Yak1927 +created_utc: 1785851091 +edited: false +body: +It's good to see that someone at least has put some thought into this. Etfs do the same thing to stocks, they get very stretched thin the value gets manipulated heavily by large institutions. BTC would be no different and it would be ggs to breaking it's all-time high if the government passes the clarity actExtracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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8 new Reddit comments were posted, including hrad95,Prestigious_Ear_8055,trademarktower.
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edited: false body: The Cold Card fiasco has only affected 0.1% of Bitcoin. + +comment: p1n3wrp +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: hrad95 +created_utc: 1785848054 +edited: false +body: +When FTX collapsed, it gave me the opportunity to start DCA'ing at \~16k. Are hardware wallets like Trezor still safe? If so, I'll be counting my lucky stars and buying more. + +comment: p1n42lg +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: Prestigious_Ear_8055 +created_utc: 1785848104 +edited: false +body: +Most people are not even aware lmao + +comment: p1n4ihp +parent: t1_p1lgopc +author: trademarktower +created_utc: 1785848237 +edited: false +body: +People with money hold their crypto along with all their other assets like 401k with OG brokers like Fidelity which have fraud protection guarantees. + +comment: p1n53w7 +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: Key-Session6216 +created_utc: 1785848418 +edited: false +body: +So weird that price has gone up by a few points too. Should've dropped 25% minimum. + +comment: p1n5r7c +parent: t1_p1mkgmk +author: McBurger +created_utc: 1785848613 +edited: false +body: +did *you* race off to liquidate everything and exit? + +me neither. Guess we were in the majority. + +comment: p1n6oxs +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: ghosthacked +created_utc: 1785848898 +edited: false +body: +tick tock next block. + +comment: p1n72og +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: AnnArbor-Armadillo +created_utc: 1785849012 +edited: false +body: +It was a small amount of bitcoin stolen compared to others...but this does really hurt the self-custody story, fair or not. While that's a small % of total coins held, I wouldn't cast this as not a big deal for the long-term narrative. + +comment: p1n77dc +parent: t1_p1my2au +author: FuturePrimitiv3 +created_utc: 1785849050 +edited: false +body: +If CLARITY helps institutions do you think thats gonna helps retail BTC investors? I'm gonna go out on a very short limb here and suggest that inviting corporate and institutional money only makes BTC more manipulatable under a thin the veil of legitimacy which will generate more volatility (more organized pump and dumps) and ultimately hurt BTC in the long run.Extracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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Three new comments were posted: EnvironmentalYard467 on institutional money and the CLARITY Act, Aggravating-Owl-7050 joking about free bitcoin, and Clear_Item_922 saying the COLDCARD fiasco affected only 0.1% of Bitcoin.
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edited: false body: Normies have not heard of this coldcard thing.... I asked my wife... Not even I news story hit her screen + +comment: p1my2au +parent: t1_p1lklla +author: EnvironmentalYard467 +created_utc: 1785846198 +edited: false +body: +I feel this, bur part of me likes the possible pumps institutional money can give it. Like Fidelty and Black Rock, they want the clarity act to pass. Not because they care about us lol, but it helps them. I'd honestly prefer governments leave it alone too, but we need to realize governments will do whatever the fuck they want. Regardless bitcoin will carry on, tick tok.. + +comment: p1n0f8l +parent: t1_p1lsh0t +author: Aggravating-Owl-7050 +created_utc: 1785846962 +edited: false +body: +can't wait to buy my btc 4 free /s + +comment: p1n0nfa +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: Clear_Item_922 +created_utc: 1785847036 +edited: false +body: +The Cold Card fiasco has only affected 0.1% of Bitcoin.Extracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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Four new comments were posted: youcantexterminateme and DistributionOk2111 discussing the bottom and buying more, a code-breaks joke from sonicode, and DavidssonA reporting that people outside the bubble have not heard of the COLDCARD incident.
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edited: false body: I'm convinced it's the bottom + +comment: p1mrtlf +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: youcantexterminateme +created_utc: 1785844051 +edited: false +body: +yeah its hit the bottom, but who knows, maybe a little dip to come. the bottom line has always been predictable and I think thats basically because the market runs out of sellers and the holders are holding at that point. + +comment: p1muu9s +parent: t1_p1moawe +author: sonicode +created_utc: 1785845119 +edited: false +body: +*"Whenever my code breaks, I just remember: 'There is a bug in Bitcoin."* + +comment: p1mv6gc +parent: t1_p1lyh0e +author: DistributionOk2111 +created_utc: 1785845236 +edited: false +body: +If so i take a small 20k loan and get another half + +comment: p1mvumk +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: DavidssonA +created_utc: 1785845463 +edited: false +body: +Normies have not heard of this coldcard thing.... I asked my wife... Not even I news story hit her screenExtracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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Five new comments were posted, including theoretical_hipster ('Bad News for CoinKite. Bitcoin is fine.'), a Mark Karpeles joke from Particular-Fall-3194, and other_acc_banned ('I'm convinced it's the bottom').
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I do wish we will get a small relief to \~90k until Next halving. But emotionally it does feel rock bottom + +comment: p1mmip1 +parent: t1_p1lyb54 +author: Different_Umpire9003 +created_utc: 1785842076 +edited: false +body: +I’m so mad at myself for not buying then + +comment: p1mnbty +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: theoretical_hipster +created_utc: 1785842389 +edited: false +body: +Bad News for CoinKite. Bitcoin is fine. + +comment: p1moawe +parent: t1_p1lgjce +author: Particular-Fall-3194 +created_utc: 1785842761 +edited: false +body: +I can envision Mark Karpeles' fat ass sipping his iced coffee somewhere laughing at the coldcard hack + +comment: p1mp9h7 +parent: t1_p1mk3e1 +author: zante2033 +created_utc: 1785843126 +edited: false +body: +Not of any meaningful tier + +comment: p1mpd4p +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: other_acc_banned +created_utc: 1785843163 +edited: false +body: +I'm convinced it's the bottomExtracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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Four new comments were posted: Efficient_Range1156 on the protocol sustaining attacks for 17 years, Acrobatic_News_4860 blaming FUD rather than sell pressure and wishing for relief toward 90k, and Forded_Fiction24 crediting macroeconomics for holding the price up.
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edited: false body: The longer we stay here the more support it builds at this level + +comment: p1mk3e1 +parent: t1_p1luhjo +author: Efficient_Range1156 +created_utc: 1785841106 +edited: false +body: +The protocol has sustained an ongoing attack for the past 17 years. + +comment: p1mkgmk +parent: t1_p1lgjce +author: Acrobatic_News_4860 +created_utc: 1785841254 +edited: false +body: +It’s more about the fud and not sell pressure + +comment: p1mklau +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: Forded_Fiction24 +created_utc: 1785841307 +edited: false +body: +Macroeconomics are holding it up. Look at the broader picture + +comment: p1mkndo +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: Acrobatic_News_4860 +created_utc: 1785841330 +edited: false +body: +I do wish we will get a small relief to \~90k until +Next halving. +But emotionally it does feel rock bottomExtracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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One new comment was posted: Firm-Mirror315 ('The longer we stay here the more support it builds at this level').
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post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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Three new comments were posted to the thread: broskibrokovski21 p1m93eo (replying to t1_p1l5avj), Madsen13140 p1m96ds and Disavowed_Rogue p1ma5fc (both top-level).
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edited: false body: MORE + +comment: p1m93eo +parent: t1_p1l5avj +author: broskibrokovski21 +created_utc: 1785836209 +edited: false +body: +It does feel and smell like it. Would love to see a hard bounce here just to see the faces of the "buying the October lows" gang + +comment: p1m96ds +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: Madsen13140 +created_utc: 1785836250 +edited: false +body: +Refinance where , Michael ? + +comment: p1ma5fc +parent: t3_1vezvlv +author: Disavowed_Rogue +created_utc: 1785836725 +edited: false +body: +It's not weird it's because the fundamentals are strong get it rightExtracted text as captured
post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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post: 1vezvlv author: ximogui created_utc: 1785816991 title: BTC weirdly holding up body: Insane week of bad news for BTC. CC hacks, now up to 60% chance of a rate hike in September, Strategy sells more BTC... and yet, we're pretty much flat. Dare I start to hope that this is what bottoming looks like? comment: p1l5789 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Sea_Variety_1691 created_utc: 1785817219 edited: false body: in around 60k is the bottom. Coldcard was a black swan event, but we have already bled so much it barely mattered. comment: p1l5avj parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Efficient_Range1156 created_utc: 1785817260 edited: false body: Rock bottom vibes. Like bedrock bottom. comment: p1l7k39 parent: t3_1vezvlv author: Full-Atmosphere-4818 created_utc: 1785818203 edited: false body: If you had told me in advance the CC hack would happen, I would have guessed a week long drawdown to $50k. Instead, crickets, in terms of price. So my conclusion is..... the VAST majority of owners do not use any self custody and have ZERO interest in ever using it, therefore for most, this was a meaningless problem for those crazy people who think the government is out to confiscate their money at every turn. This is not my view, but I suspect it is the view of a much larger majority of Bitcoin holders than I originally thought. comment: p1l8zrs parent: t3_1vezvlv author: YouAreAnFnIdiotExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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