r/Bitcoin: why Coinkite destroyed affected inventory
reddit-coinkite-inventory-destruction-question
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Two existing comments were removed or marked [deleted] (one by striata and one by Save_JR), and a new comment by Levitdon argued that unflashed affected devices are the only remaining hardware evidence.
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comment: p31qt1u parent: t1_p30dac9 -author: striata +author: [deleted] created_utc: 1786459787 edited: 1786464138 body: -Nothing of the stuff in that post proves anything. It just reframes old Twitter posts in a malevolent light. - -This is, to put it mildly, pizzagate/illuminati level conspiratorial slop. Text also reeks of being written by an LLM, full of drama, which is par for the course. - -Of course they put "bug" in quotes when describing a retirement attack, because that's what the attack entails, intentionality. It doesn't mean they are subtly nodding to their own "bug" like some Illuminati-type villain. - -Of course physical dice rolls are opt-in and not the default source of entropy, because they want to make the device user-friendly. Nobody wants to do the dice rolls. Them saying that doing dice rolls is the only way to absolutely ensure you don't get affected by attacks or bugs is just a fact, again not some conspiratorial nod to their own malevolence. - -The part about the alias identity is the only thing that is actually weird here, but it still doesn't prove anything. It makes no sense that he'd make an alias and configure signing using the same key, but hey, maybe it's another subtle nod and "hiding in plain sight" eh? +[deleted] comment: p31siwp parent: t1_p30l1bz comment: p33ttis parent: t1_p30u3bn -author: Save_JR +author: [deleted] created_utc: 1786478899 edited: false body: -Dumbass +[removed] comment: p33wi8x parent: t1_p30mcmr edited: false body: same here. + +comment: p3ncej2 +parent: t3_1vld3rt +author: Levitdon +created_utc: 1786715493 +edited: false +body: +Those old affected devices which haven’t been flashed with the updated software from CoinKite, are now the ONLY available hardware evidence left to further investigate what else might be further compromised leading to the known yet unknown! Beware, the real Truth is hard to Bear!Extracted text as captured
post: 1vld3rt author: Main-Massive created_utc: 1786442201 title: Why did Coinkite destroy its inventory? body: The company published a note claiming they destroyed all their inventory (devices affected by the bug). Why? Why couldn’t they just reflash them with the fixed firmware? I can’t stop thinking there is something else to it. Should users of coldcard devices be concerned? They are being asked to upgrade firmware and be at peace of mind. Why didn’t Coinkite do 5he same? Could there be more we are not being told and involves a hardware-level bug? comment: p30a4jm parent: t3_1vld3rt author: JumpProfessional3372 created_utc: 1786442341 edited: false body: Maybe they said that "for the record". Because in their store I see them with the message *"New units ship with corrected firmware. Remember to always upgrade on receipt."* [https://store.coinkite.com/store](https://store.coinkite.com/store) comment: p30a7jh parent: t3_1vld3rt author: CoffeeAlternative647 created_utc: 1786442380 edited: false body: I am sorry, but if there are users of coldcard still, they're either masoquist, naive or retarded. comment: p30aey9 parent: t3_1vld3rt author: Elistheman created_utc: 1786442478 edited: false body: No trust. My CC is in the drawer collecting dust. I can’t believe this was touted as the best BTC wallet. comment: p30b69c parent: t1_p30aey9Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The thread gained two new comments: one by snek-jazz linking wider vulnerability discovery to AI-assisted auditing, and a short agreement from Oxymorix.
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edited: false body: Yes. + +comment: p3ecm19 +parent: t1_p3d43mn +author: snek-jazz +created_utc: 1786605116 +edited: 1786611722 +body: +> I don’t know anyone that could perform that task and most people don’t either. + +AI can now do it better than people, that's what changed, and why the bug which had been there for 5 years was found right after Kimi 3 launched, and why Rob Hamilton and others who got a fire lit under them because of this found loads more vulnerabilities in other bitcoin related projects in the following days. + +> from what I saw it didn’t even need AI to find it, no one actually audited it. + +Attackers had 5 years and plenty of incentive to find this and still didn't until AI could do it, that's the evidence. + +> It’s still gross negligence, they should be auditing their own code to find stuff like that. + +They should but there was no guarantee they would have anyway since the attackers didn't either, the AI models didn't exist to do it when the code was written, but they do now. We're seeing bug reports sky rocket all over the software industry lately because of this. + +comment: p3ef1fz +parent: t1_p3cmmwe +author: Oxymorix +created_utc: 1786606304 +edited: false +body: +same here.Extracted text as captured
post: 1vld3rt author: Main-Massive created_utc: 1786442201 title: Why did Coinkite destroy its inventory? body: The company published a note claiming they destroyed all their inventory (devices affected by the bug). Why? Why couldn’t they just reflash them with the fixed firmware? I can’t stop thinking there is something else to it. Should users of coldcard devices be concerned? They are being asked to upgrade firmware and be at peace of mind. Why didn’t Coinkite do 5he same? Could there be more we are not being told and involves a hardware-level bug? comment: p30a4jm parent: t3_1vld3rt author: JumpProfessional3372 created_utc: 1786442341 edited: false body: Maybe they said that "for the record". Because in their store I see them with the message *"New units ship with corrected firmware. Remember to always upgrade on receipt."* [https://store.coinkite.com/store](https://store.coinkite.com/store) comment: p30a7jh parent: t3_1vld3rt author: CoffeeAlternative647 created_utc: 1786442380 edited: false body: I am sorry, but if there are users of coldcard still, they're either masoquist, naive or retarded. comment: p30aey9 parent: t3_1vld3rt author: Elistheman created_utc: 1786442478 edited: false body: No trust. My CC is in the drawer collecting dust. I can’t believe this was touted as the best BTC wallet. comment: p30b69c parent: t1_p30aey9Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The thread gained two new replies: Mr_Ander5on argued that most users cannot audit code and that Coinkite's failure to do so is gross negligence, and AnthonyBTC simply answered yes.
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edited: false body: is that right? less than 10 employees? + +comment: p3d43mn +parent: t1_p39oon3 +author: Mr_Ander5on +created_utc: 1786586594 +edited: false +body: +I can’t audit code so I would have to trust them. I don’t know anyone that could perform that task and most people don’t either. + +99% of people are trusting, and from what I saw it didn’t even need AI to find it, no one actually audited it. No third party audits, everyone just trusted cold card. + +It’s still gross negligence, they should be auditing their own code to find stuff like that. + +comment: p3dgm9d +parent: t1_p3cmv3y +author: AnthonyBTC +created_utc: 1786590995 +edited: false +body: +Yes.Extracted text as captured
post: 1vld3rt author: Main-Massive created_utc: 1786442201 title: Why did Coinkite destroy its inventory? body: The company published a note claiming they destroyed all their inventory (devices affected by the bug). Why? Why couldn’t they just reflash them with the fixed firmware? I can’t stop thinking there is something else to it. Should users of coldcard devices be concerned? They are being asked to upgrade firmware and be at peace of mind. Why didn’t Coinkite do 5he same? Could there be more we are not being told and involves a hardware-level bug? comment: p30a4jm parent: t3_1vld3rt author: JumpProfessional3372 created_utc: 1786442341 edited: false body: Maybe they said that "for the record". Because in their store I see them with the message *"New units ship with corrected firmware. Remember to always upgrade on receipt."* [https://store.coinkite.com/store](https://store.coinkite.com/store) comment: p30a7jh parent: t3_1vld3rt author: CoffeeAlternative647 created_utc: 1786442380 edited: false body: I am sorry, but if there are users of coldcard still, they're either masoquist, naive or retarded. comment: p30aey9 parent: t3_1vld3rt author: Elistheman created_utc: 1786442478 edited: false body: No trust. My CC is in the drawer collecting dust. I can’t believe this was touted as the best BTC wallet. comment: p30b69c parent: t1_p30aey9Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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post: 1vld3rt author: Main-Massive created_utc: 1786442201 title: Why did Coinkite destroy its inventory? body: The company published a note claiming they destroyed all their inventory (devices affected by the bug). Why? Why couldn’t they just reflash them with the fixed firmware? I can’t stop thinking there is something else to it. Should users of coldcard devices be concerned? They are being asked to upgrade firmware and be at peace of mind. Why didn’t Coinkite do 5he same? Could there be more we are not being told and involves a hardware-level bug? comment: p30a4jm parent: t3_1vld3rt author: JumpProfessional3372 created_utc: 1786442341 edited: false body: Maybe they said that "for the record". Because in their store I see them with the message *"New units ship with corrected firmware. Remember to always upgrade on receipt."* [https://store.coinkite.com/store](https://store.coinkite.com/store) comment: p30a7jh parent: t3_1vld3rt author: CoffeeAlternative647 created_utc: 1786442380 edited: false body: I am sorry, but if there are users of coldcard still, they're either masoquist, naive or retarded. comment: p30aey9 parent: t3_1vld3rt author: Elistheman created_utc: 1786442478 edited: false body: No trust. My CC is in the drawer collecting dust. I can’t believe this was touted as the best BTC wallet. comment: p30b69c parent: t1_p30aey9Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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