r/coldcard: whether the devices stay useful if Coinkite closes
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https://www.reddit.com/r/coldcard/comments/1ve3vnu/is_coldcard_still_useful_if_the_company_closes/
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The thread gained two new comments: one offering to buy the poster's Q and pay shipping in bitcoin, and the reply declining and saying the device will be kept as memorabilia.
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I updated and moved my funds to new wallet without issue
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+author: dadlif3
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The thread gained two new comments: one offering to buy the poster's Q and pay shipping in bitcoin, and the reply declining and saying the device will be kept as memorabilia.
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edited: false body: I updated and moved my funds to new wallet without issue + +comment: p2gsmpx +parent: t1_p1e31yy +author: dadlif3 +created_utc: 1786199178 +edited: false +body: +I will take the Q off your hands for you, will pay shipping in bitcoin! + +comment: p2gu8hv +parent: t1_p2gsmpx +author: BTC_MYTH44 +created_utc: 1786199662 +edited: false +body: +No thanks, I’m keeping it as memorabiliaExtracted text as captured
post: 1ve3vnu author: btcauag created_utc: 1785733310 title: Is Coldcard still useful if the company closes? body: If the company goes tits up and closes down, is the hardware device still useful as a long term cold wallet （with a dice roll seed)? comment: p1e2f81 parent: t3_1ve3vnu author: Optionbulls created_utc: 1785733668 edited: false body: I think so. comment: p1e31yy parent: t3_1ve3vnu author: BTC_MYTH44 created_utc: 1785733963 edited: false body: I imagine “no” being that all of their firmware from the mk3 to the Q have been verified as “vulnerable” for not generating enough entropy when producing seedphrases Either way I’m never using my CCQ again and I hope the company enters insolvency before the end of this fiscal year Coinkite & NVK have destroyed lives and deserve everything they have coming evil bastards comment: p1e3e30 parent: t3_1ve3vnu author: tpc0121 created_utc: 1785734121 edited: false body: it might be marginally useful defending against a hypothetical wrench attack, in that given its size and weight, you can probably throw it at your attacker's head like a baseball comment: p1e68hk parent: t1_p1e31yy author: Aurorion created_utc: 1785735474 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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One new comment: user AntZealousideal3728 reports they updated the firmware and moved funds to a new wallet without issue.
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edited: false body: Of course. It makes for a wicked door wedge. + +comment: p207bf5 +parent: t1_p1etfyo +author: AntZealousideal3728 +created_utc: 1785995051 +edited: false +body: +I updated and moved my funds to new wallet without issueExtracted text as captured
post: 1ve3vnu author: btcauag created_utc: 1785733310 title: Is Coldcard still useful if the company closes? body: If the company goes tits up and closes down, is the hardware device still useful as a long term cold wallet （with a dice roll seed)? comment: p1e2f81 parent: t3_1ve3vnu author: Optionbulls created_utc: 1785733668 edited: false body: I think so. comment: p1e31yy parent: t3_1ve3vnu author: BTC_MYTH44 created_utc: 1785733963 edited: false body: I imagine “no” being that all of their firmware from the mk3 to the Q have been verified as “vulnerable” for not generating enough entropy when producing seedphrases Either way I’m never using my CCQ again and I hope the company enters insolvency before the end of this fiscal year Coinkite & NVK have destroyed lives and deserve everything they have coming evil bastards comment: p1e3e30 parent: t3_1ve3vnu author: tpc0121 created_utc: 1785734121 edited: false body: it might be marginally useful defending against a hypothetical wrench attack, in that given its size and weight, you can probably throw it at your attacker's head like a baseball comment: p1e68hk parent: t1_p1e31yy author: Aurorion created_utc: 1785735474 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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1 new Reddit comment was posted, including KitchenTop1820.
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edited: false body: For the right price, and with the right technical expertise of the user, I would consider them a bargain. For regular users, I would base it on the availability of the updates - which would most likely stop if/when the company closes. + +comment: p1nopv1 +parent: t3_1ve3vnu +author: KitchenTop1820 +created_utc: 1785853918 +edited: false +body: +Of course. It makes for a wicked door wedge.Extracted text as captured
post: 1ve3vnu author: btcauag created_utc: 1785733310 title: Is Coldcard still useful if the company closes? body: If the company goes tits up and closes down, is the hardware device still useful as a long term cold wallet （with a dice roll seed)? comment: p1e2f81 parent: t3_1ve3vnu author: Optionbulls created_utc: 1785733668 edited: false body: I think so. comment: p1e31yy parent: t3_1ve3vnu author: BTC_MYTH44 created_utc: 1785733963 edited: false body: I imagine “no” being that all of their firmware from the mk3 to the Q have been verified as “vulnerable” for not generating enough entropy when producing seedphrases Either way I’m never using my CCQ again and I hope the company enters insolvency before the end of this fiscal year Coinkite & NVK have destroyed lives and deserve everything they have coming evil bastards comment: p1e3e30 parent: t3_1ve3vnu author: tpc0121 created_utc: 1785734121 edited: false body: it might be marginally useful defending against a hypothetical wrench attack, in that given its size and weight, you can probably throw it at your attacker's head like a baseball comment: p1e68hk parent: t1_p1e31yy author: Aurorion created_utc: 1785735474 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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1 new Reddit comment was posted, including RedReadRedemption.
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edited: false body: I was who reported this. The bug was confirmed yesterday. So yes the new firmware can brick your coldcard. I’ve added the github link to the pull requests that shows the problem on the original post. + +comment: p1m7rbl +parent: t3_1ve3vnu +author: RedReadRedemption +created_utc: 1785835554 +edited: false +body: +For the right price, and with the right technical expertise of the user, I would consider them a bargain. For regular users, I would base it on the availability of the updates - which would most likely stop if/when the company closes.Extracted text as captured
post: 1ve3vnu author: btcauag created_utc: 1785733310 title: Is Coldcard still useful if the company closes? body: If the company goes tits up and closes down, is the hardware device still useful as a long term cold wallet （with a dice roll seed)? comment: p1e2f81 parent: t3_1ve3vnu author: Optionbulls created_utc: 1785733668 edited: false body: I think so. comment: p1e31yy parent: t3_1ve3vnu author: BTC_MYTH44 created_utc: 1785733963 edited: false body: I imagine “no” being that all of their firmware from the mk3 to the Q have been verified as “vulnerable” for not generating enough entropy when producing seedphrases Either way I’m never using my CCQ again and I hope the company enters insolvency before the end of this fiscal year Coinkite & NVK have destroyed lives and deserve everything they have coming evil bastards comment: p1e3e30 parent: t3_1ve3vnu author: tpc0121 created_utc: 1785734121 edited: false body: it might be marginally useful defending against a hypothetical wrench attack, in that given its size and weight, you can probably throw it at your attacker's head like a baseball comment: p1e68hk parent: t1_p1e31yy author: Aurorion created_utc: 1785735474 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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post: 1ve3vnu author: btcauag created_utc: 1785733310 title: Is Coldcard still useful if the company closes? body: If the company goes tits up and closes down, is the hardware device still useful as a long term cold wallet （with a dice roll seed)? comment: p1e2f81 parent: t3_1ve3vnu author: Optionbulls created_utc: 1785733668 edited: false body: I think so. comment: p1e31yy parent: t3_1ve3vnu author: BTC_MYTH44 created_utc: 1785733963 edited: false body: I imagine “no” being that all of their firmware from the mk3 to the Q have been verified as “vulnerable” for not generating enough entropy when producing seedphrases Either way I’m never using my CCQ again and I hope the company enters insolvency before the end of this fiscal year Coinkite & NVK have destroyed lives and deserve everything they have coming evil bastards comment: p1e3e30 parent: t3_1ve3vnu author: tpc0121 created_utc: 1785734121 edited: false body: it might be marginally useful defending against a hypothetical wrench attack, in that given its size and weight, you can probably throw it at your attacker's head like a baseball comment: p1e68hk parent: t1_p1e31yy author: Aurorion created_utc: 1785735474 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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