r/Bitcoin: Blockstream Jade Plus setup workflow suspect
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The thread gained a comment saying a Blockstream Jade update can be done via USB stick and explaining a preference not to update air-gapped setups unless a serious vulnerability demands it.
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Go to Blockstream’s official firmware site (make sure it’s http://jadefw.blockstream.com and not some other dodgy scam site!). Download the latest onto a USB-C drive. Blockstream has its own drive for this called Jadelink but you can use any old drive. Plug this into the Jade, choose the option to update firmware, and just follow the instructions on the device. There is a “no radio” version of firmware that disables bluetooth. Use that one if you want to make sure you never turn on bluetooth accidentally.
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edited: false body: Go to Blockstream’s official firmware site (make sure it’s http://jadefw.blockstream.com and not some other dodgy scam site!). Download the latest onto a USB-C drive. Blockstream has its own drive for this called Jadelink but you can use any old drive. Plug this into the Jade, choose the option to update firmware, and just follow the instructions on the device. There is a “no radio” version of firmware that disables bluetooth. Use that one if you want to make sure you never turn on bluetooth accidentally. + +comment: p2x21c0 +parent: t1_p2kcsn1 +author: TheresNoSecondBest +created_utc: 1786397620 +edited: false +body: +You can use a USB stick to do so. + +I prefer not to update my air-gapped setups unless there's a huge vulnerability. The wallet is like a big numbers calculator, the math never changes.Extracted text as captured
post: 1viknfe author: No_Fuel4693 created_utc: 1786158158 title: Blockstream Jade Plus setup - workflow suspect? body: Like many, I'm assessing my cold wallet options right now and I was watching this youtube video of the setup on the jade plus : [Blockstream Jade Plus: Full Setup & Honest Review - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLHsMC7aJj4) Right around the 9:00 minute mark, after setting up the seed phrase etc, it only then, gives you the option to setup your QR code/bluetooth/usb. So the device is powered up, a wallet is created, then you connect to the blockstream website.. Is there a way to change the order of that workflow? I mean, how do I know that the wallet I have just created isn't being transmitted to their website during this handshake? Wouldn't it make more sense to do all that setup first BEFORE creating the wallet? comment: p2e9r7z parent: t3_1viknfe author: Serbithar created_utc: 1786159860 edited: 1786160144 body: Some Jade users should confirm, but my guess is that, most likely, like with any other wallet, after the first power-up and "initiation" you can go into full offline air gap mode and create a fresh wallet or restore a manually created wallet. New Ledger during the first power-up after the genuineness check anf firmware update also asks you to create a wallet while it is connected to Ledger Live and the internet. But if you distrust the process, you can later just create a fresh wallet when fully offline. I was considering Jade, but decided to choose DIY SeedSigner for for 1/4 or less of Jade's price. But Jade looks like pretty cool device. comment: p2e9sgh parent: t3_1viknfe author: DarrelXero created_utc: 1786159873 edited: false body: Yeah, this is the option to create a seed and use the Jade as a persistent device that is "initialized" and uses Blockstreams Blind Oracle. I agree with you, that sucks. You can 100% create a seed offline, create your QR Code and never once connect to Blockstream website or app. It's how I've used the Jade for years. Generate your seed offline, use the steps to create your QR code and it not be persistent. Temporary signer mode. Power up the Jade, I port the seed via QR, use it to sign transactions or as part of a multisig, then power it off and the device wipes. No need for the Blockstream app or the Blind Oracle. comment: p2ebj3x parent: t1_p2e9sgh author: Serbithar created_utc: 1786160551 edited: false body: If I understand correctly in fully offline airgap mode Jade works exactly like SeedSigner? Keys are not stored, and you need to provide your phrase or scan QR every time you power up the device? comment: p2ed7w3 parent: t3_1viknfeExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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post: 1viknfe author: No_Fuel4693 created_utc: 1786158158 title: Blockstream Jade Plus setup - workflow suspect? body: Like many, I'm assessing my cold wallet options right now and I was watching this youtube video of the setup on the jade plus : [Blockstream Jade Plus: Full Setup & Honest Review - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLHsMC7aJj4) Right around the 9:00 minute mark, after setting up the seed phrase etc, it only then, gives you the option to setup your QR code/bluetooth/usb. So the device is powered up, a wallet is created, then you connect to the blockstream website.. Is there a way to change the order of that workflow? I mean, how do I know that the wallet I have just created isn't being transmitted to their website during this handshake? Wouldn't it make more sense to do all that setup first BEFORE creating the wallet? comment: p2e9r7z parent: t3_1viknfe author: Serbithar created_utc: 1786159860 edited: 1786160144 body: Some Jade users should confirm, but my guess is that, most likely, like with any other wallet, after the first power-up and "initiation" you can go into full offline air gap mode and create a fresh wallet or restore a manually created wallet. New Ledger during the first power-up after the genuineness check anf firmware update also asks you to create a wallet while it is connected to Ledger Live and the internet. But if you distrust the process, you can later just create a fresh wallet when fully offline. I was considering Jade, but decided to choose DIY SeedSigner for for 1/4 or less of Jade's price. But Jade looks like pretty cool device. comment: p2e9sgh parent: t3_1viknfe author: DarrelXero created_utc: 1786159873 edited: false body: Yeah, this is the option to create a seed and use the Jade as a persistent device that is "initialized" and uses Blockstreams Blind Oracle. I agree with you, that sucks. You can 100% create a seed offline, create your QR Code and never once connect to Blockstream website or app. It's how I've used the Jade for years. Generate your seed offline, use the steps to create your QR code and it not be persistent. Temporary signer mode. Power up the Jade, I port the seed via QR, use it to sign transactions or as part of a multisig, then power it off and the device wipes. No need for the Blockstream app or the Blind Oracle. comment: p2ebj3x parent: t1_p2e9sgh author: Serbithar created_utc: 1786160551 edited: false body: If I understand correctly in fully offline airgap mode Jade works exactly like SeedSigner? Keys are not stored, and you need to provide your phrase or scan QR every time you power up the device? comment: p2ed7w3 parent: t3_1viknfeExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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