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r/ledgerwallet seed-entropy thread carrying the 2022 drain claim

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https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/167bgjr/comment/kumtghc/

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2024-03-13
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Primary behind the claimed years-old drain report that circulated as screenshots after the July 2026 disclosure (zenulabidin-drain-report-screenshot, btctherapist-prior-drain-report). Economy-Cash6726's two-year-old comment in an r/ledgerwallet seed-entropy thread claims a Coldcard Mk4 was drained after generating a 12-word seed without dice rolls; resurfaced after the disclosure, the author dates the drain to 2022 and claims the vendor blocked them when they reported it. The thread's own replies contest the account: the author is quoted describing a Python script used to produce dice rolls, which contradicts "no dice rolls". First-hand claim, disputed in place, not verified here. Surfaced via the nvk.wtf reactions index (nvkwtf-reactions).

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    post: 167bgjr
    author: MeetingBrilliant
    created_utc: 1693584854
    title: Seed entropy
    body:
    I'm hearing from some people that ledger is inferior when it comes to RNG. Is it paranoid to think I'm only safe if I " roll my own seed" ? Thanks
    
    comment: kumtghc
    parent: t3_167bgjr
    author: Economy-Cash6726
    created_utc: 1710304846
    edited: false
    body:
    Ordered Coldcard Mk4 and wallet got drained even though I used a 12 word seed with no dice rolls. Ledger is better device and less cost
    
    comment: p0xi2z9
    parent: t1_kumtghc
    author: Inevitable-Waltz-889
    created_utc: 1785524267
    edited: false
    body:
    When did this happen?!
    
    comment: p0xoaj9
    parent: t1_p0xi2z9
    author: Economy-Cash6726
    created_utc: 1785525926
    edited: false
    body:
    2022
    
    comment: p0xs7ef
    parent: t1_p0xoaj9
    author: Inevitable-Waltz-889
    created_utc: 1785526979
    edited: false
    body:
    Damn.  Did you hear about what just happened to a ton of ColdCard users?
    
    comment: p0xszjn

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