r/Bitcoin: critique of nvk's past firmware-attack awareness
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1vdtah5/it_was_ai_and_superintelligence_man_i_swear/
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How do you actually know that’s true though, other than some guy said it? For example, this coldcard thing could just as easily be malice as it could be incompetence. I don’t think prioritising incompetence by default is accurate, all the time.
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edited: false body: How do you actually know that’s true though, other than some guy said it? For example, this coldcard thing could just as easily be malice as it could be incompetence. I don’t think prioritising incompetence by default is accurate, all the time. + +comment: p1p2h3d +parent: t1_p1opq1u +author: ZachMartin +created_utc: 1785866509 +edited: false +body: +It was mostly tongue in cheek ;) you may be right. Let’s see where the investigation goes.Extracted text as captured
post: 1vdtah5 author: Fearless-Second-7230 created_utc: 1785704070 title: "It was AI and superintelligence man, I swear" body: Nvk history posts show he was completely aware of firmware vector attacks, and narrative is, never in 5 years they audited the code in the single most safety-critical function on the device, not even SWE prompting to ask a frontier model "search for bad seed generation code" according to his own awareness of thst type of vulnerability. "hey but it is open source and has been open and publicly available"...so was he expecting community do their security job then, but at the same time he claims "most people don't check software signatures and never will", so he claims you must trust the hardware wallet vendor to do that, but they neither are doing that job, lame, isn't it?. Or....he just knew the vector of drain was just to target coldcard non geeky users who would not care to "dice rolls" at the right time....Damage is done, case gets out of notice after a week, and you just stay in business... Ok no. Enough of conspiracy theories. Entropy of events suggest that this scenario is likely impossible...😂 comment: p1bpcor parent: t3_1vdtah5 author: FastJuice3729 created_utc: 1785704105 edited: false body: hey hey hey..... hey hey hey.... whatsu whatsu whatsu whatsu whatsup! comment: p1brz17 parent: t3_1vdtah5 author: BigDik6355 created_utc: 1785704864 edited: false body: 1 year later than his prediction, but close enough. comment: p1bv9mx parent: t3_1vdtah5 author: simonmales created_utc: 1785705820 edited: false body: The mitigation of exfiltration is the majority of hardware wallets rant about. Though the issue was with generation, which \_any\_ wallet could do badly. And Cake Wallet did so in the past. Andreas says it the best about trust: [https://youtu.be/cONG2ZNjJ0c?si=Jp44IWoBDxkaR2MZ](https://youtu.be/cONG2ZNjJ0c?si=Jp44IWoBDxkaR2MZ)Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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edited: false body: No. I expect normies to be suckers. One born every minute. + +comment: p1opq1u +parent: t1_p1dlbab +author: ReplacementBig7068 +created_utc: 1785863378 +edited: false +body: +How do you actually know that’s true though, other than some guy said it? For example, this coldcard thing could just as easily be malice as it could be incompetence. I don’t think prioritising incompetence by default is accurate, all the time.Extracted text as captured
post: 1vdtah5 author: Fearless-Second-7230 created_utc: 1785704070 title: "It was AI and superintelligence man, I swear" body: Nvk history posts show he was completely aware of firmware vector attacks, and narrative is, never in 5 years they audited the code in the single most safety-critical function on the device, not even SWE prompting to ask a frontier model "search for bad seed generation code" according to his own awareness of thst type of vulnerability. "hey but it is open source and has been open and publicly available"...so was he expecting community do their security job then, but at the same time he claims "most people don't check software signatures and never will", so he claims you must trust the hardware wallet vendor to do that, but they neither are doing that job, lame, isn't it?. Or....he just knew the vector of drain was just to target coldcard non geeky users who would not care to "dice rolls" at the right time....Damage is done, case gets out of notice after a week, and you just stay in business... Ok no. Enough of conspiracy theories. Entropy of events suggest that this scenario is likely impossible...😂 comment: p1bpcor parent: t3_1vdtah5 author: FastJuice3729 created_utc: 1785704105 edited: false body: hey hey hey..... hey hey hey.... whatsu whatsu whatsu whatsu whatsup! comment: p1brz17 parent: t3_1vdtah5 author: BigDik6355 created_utc: 1785704864 edited: false body: 1 year later than his prediction, but close enough. comment: p1bv9mx parent: t3_1vdtah5 author: simonmales created_utc: 1785705820 edited: false body: The mitigation of exfiltration is the majority of hardware wallets rant about. Though the issue was with generation, which \_any\_ wallet could do badly. And Cake Wallet did so in the past. Andreas says it the best about trust: [https://youtu.be/cONG2ZNjJ0c?si=Jp44IWoBDxkaR2MZ](https://youtu.be/cONG2ZNjJ0c?si=Jp44IWoBDxkaR2MZ)Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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post: 1vdtah5 author: Fearless-Second-7230 created_utc: 1785704070 title: "It was AI and superintelligence man, I swear" body: Nvk history posts show he was completely aware of firmware vector attacks, and narrative is, never in 5 years they audited the code in the single most safety-critical function on the device, not even SWE prompting to ask a frontier model "search for bad seed generation code" according to his own awareness of thst type of vulnerability. "hey but it is open source and has been open and publicly available"...so was he expecting community do their security job then, but at the same time he claims "most people don't check software signatures and never will", so he claims you must trust the hardware wallet vendor to do that, but they neither are doing that job, lame, isn't it?. Or....he just knew the vector of drain was just to target coldcard non geeky users who would not care to "dice rolls" at the right time....Damage is done, case gets out of notice after a week, and you just stay in business... Ok no. Enough of conspiracy theories. Entropy of events suggest that this scenario is likely impossible...😂 comment: p1bpcor parent: t3_1vdtah5 author: FastJuice3729 created_utc: 1785704105 edited: false body: hey hey hey..... hey hey hey.... whatsu whatsu whatsu whatsu whatsup! comment: p1brz17 parent: t3_1vdtah5 author: BigDik6355 created_utc: 1785704864 edited: false body: 1 year later than his prediction, but close enough. comment: p1bv9mx parent: t3_1vdtah5 author: simonmales created_utc: 1785705820 edited: false body: The mitigation of exfiltration is the majority of hardware wallets rant about. Though the issue was with generation, which \_any\_ wallet could do badly. And Cake Wallet did so in the past. Andreas says it the best about trust: [https://youtu.be/cONG2ZNjJ0c?si=Jp44IWoBDxkaR2MZ](https://youtu.be/cONG2ZNjJ0c?si=Jp44IWoBDxkaR2MZ)Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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