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r/coldcard: whether pre-window seeds with a passphrase are safe

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https://www.reddit.com/r/coldcard/comments/1vct25y/seeds_created_before_the_march_2021_and_using_a/

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    post: 1vct25y
    author: Sammytheseaotter
    created_utc: 1785604733
    title: Seeds created before the March 2021 and using a passphrase are safe?
    body:
    Hi Everyone,
    
    I'm shocked as everyone else about this colossal fuck up!
    
    I'm curious if your seed was created before this shitty code was introduced in March 2021. Your seed should be secure correct?
    
    comment: p13yafh
    parent: t3_1vct25y
    author: daphonzy
    created_utc: 1785607200
    edited: false
    body:
    If your seed was generated on MK3 prior to 2021, then my understanding is you’re not affected by this particular vulnerability (passphrase or not). You’re as safe as you were before this vulnerability was identified.
    
    comment: p13zr2f
    parent: t3_1vct25y
    author: blurred_rabbit
    created_utc: 1785607622
    edited: false
    body:
    I wouldn’t take the risk at all. If you still want to use your device and aren’t done with them as a company you should do the following:
    
    Temporarily transfer your coin to another wallet. Update your cold card to the latest firmware fix they just released. Set it up again, generate a new seed (add a complex passphrase and do the 100+ dice rolls to be safe anyway). Do a full wallet restore test after taking note of your seed and passphrase to make sure everything you noted is correct. Then do a simple receive and send test with a small amount of coin. Then once good, send all of your coin back.
    
    But to answer your question if the passphrase is complex enough / long enough and not just a simple single word it should cover you. But more importantly did you set it up with manual dice rolls 100+? That would save you even more.
    
    comment: p14bn9v
    parent: t1_p13zr2f
    author: Sammytheseaotter
    created_utc: 1785611045
    edited: false
    body:
    I can't trust Coinkite with any firmware update after March 2021. Also this was a rushed update. I'll be transferring my Bitcoin to another HW wallet. Just wanted to make sure my Bitcoin is safe for now.
    
    comment: p14tnxk

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