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r/Bitcoin: safely storing BTC without a hardware wallet

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1vil2qs/safely_store_btc_wo_hww/

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    -not robust against crushing
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    -those little letter pieces fall out and you've lost your seed
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    -trash device, overpriced
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    -you can get a whole stack of stainless steel 'credit card' blanks and an engraving pen for like 20 bucks on amazon and have 10 seed backups for like a tenth of the price of that gimmicky thing
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    post: 1vil2qs
    author: RichHomieWan
    created_utc: 1786159432
    title: Safely store BTC w/o HWW
    body:
    Due to the recent events with CC and the war on BTC, I am trying to find a safe way to store my coins. I’m by no means an expert In this space, just doing my part to stack sats. I am a CC user and have moved my BTC to strike as I wait for a new HWW which arrives tomorrow.
    
    Apparently tomorrow there is a potential chain split In BTC or something like that and I want to make sure my coins are safe. Outside of an exchange, is there a place where I can import a dice rolled seed phrase somewhere to secure my coins? 
    
    comment: p2e9q03
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    author: OrangePillar
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    Roll your own seed.
    
    https://blog.bitbox.swiss/en/roll-the-dice-generate-your-own-seed/
    
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    DONT REACT TO DM‘s. They‘ll try to scam you.  
    TAKE YOUR TIME!  
    DONOT ENTER YOUR SEEDPHRASE ON ANY ONLINE DEVICE
    
    My 2 sats: i think you still need a HW wallet. In my opinion, the risks by messing  everything up by yourself is way higher than „trusting“ a decent HW company. Make sure to have a good passphrase and you‘ll do just fine :)
    
    Good luck
    
    comment: p2eahts
    parent: t3_1vil2qs
    author: abercrombezie
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    -DONT REACT TO DM‘s. They‘ll try to scam you.  
    -TAKE YOUR TIME!  
    -DONOT ENTER YOUR SEEDPHRASE ON ANY ONLINE DEVICE
    -
    -My 2 sats: i think you still need a HW wallet. In my opinion, the risks by messing  everything up by yourself is way higher than „trusting“ a decent HW company. Make sure to have a good passphrase and you‘ll do just fine :)
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    -Good luck
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    post: 1vil2qs
    author: RichHomieWan
    created_utc: 1786159432
    title: Safely store BTC w/o HWW
    body:
    Due to the recent events with CC and the war on BTC, I am trying to find a safe way to store my coins. I’m by no means an expert In this space, just doing my part to stack sats. I am a CC user and have moved my BTC to strike as I wait for a new HWW which arrives tomorrow.
    
    Apparently tomorrow there is a potential chain split In BTC or something like that and I want to make sure my coins are safe. Outside of an exchange, is there a place where I can import a dice rolled seed phrase somewhere to secure my coins? 
    
    comment: p2e9q03
    parent: t3_1vil2qs
    author: OrangePillar
    created_utc: 1786159847
    edited: false
    body:
    Roll your own seed.
    
    https://blog.bitbox.swiss/en/roll-the-dice-generate-your-own-seed/
    
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    parent: t3_1vil2qs
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    held before deletion (captured 20260809T020514Z):
    DONT REACT TO DM‘s. They‘ll try to scam you.  
    TAKE YOUR TIME!  
    DONOT ENTER YOUR SEEDPHRASE ON ANY ONLINE DEVICE
    
    My 2 sats: i think you still need a HW wallet. In my opinion, the risks by messing  everything up by yourself is way higher than „trusting“ a decent HW company. Make sure to have a good passphrase and you‘ll do just fine :)
    
    Good luck
    
    comment: p2eahts
    parent: t3_1vil2qs
    author: abercrombezie
    created_utc: 1786160146

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    post: 1vil2qs
    author: RichHomieWan
    created_utc: 1786159432
    title: Safely store BTC w/o HWW
    body:
    Due to the recent events with CC and the war on BTC, I am trying to find a safe way to store my coins. I’m by no means an expert In this space, just doing my part to stack sats. I am a CC user and have moved my BTC to strike as I wait for a new HWW which arrives tomorrow.
    
    Apparently tomorrow there is a potential chain split In BTC or something like that and I want to make sure my coins are safe. Outside of an exchange, is there a place where I can import a dice rolled seed phrase somewhere to secure my coins? 
    
    comment: p2e9q03
    parent: t3_1vil2qs
    author: OrangePillar
    created_utc: 1786159847
    edited: false
    body:
    Roll your own seed.
    
    https://blog.bitbox.swiss/en/roll-the-dice-generate-your-own-seed/
    
    comment: p2e9vcv
    parent: t3_1vil2qs
    author: Ok-Call-5864
    created_utc: 1786159904
    edited: false
    body:
    DONT REACT TO DM‘s. They‘ll try to scam you.  
    TAKE YOUR TIME!  
    DONOT ENTER YOUR SEEDPHRASE ON ANY ONLINE DEVICE
    
    My 2 sats: i think you still need a HW wallet. In my opinion, the risks by messing  everything up by yourself is way higher than „trusting“ a decent HW company. Make sure to have a good passphrase and you‘ll do just fine :)
    
    Good luck
    
    comment: p2eahts
    parent: t3_1vil2qs
    author: abercrombezie
    created_utc: 1786160146
    edited: false
    body:
    Hardware wallets are overkill for pure HODLers. You just need a hardware wallet if you're going to send/spend.  You just need one receiving address and a way to generate the original seed offline:

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