r/Bitcoin: what to do now to secure bitcoin held on a COLDCARD
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1veuo5u/cold_card_so_what_do_i_have_to_do_to_secure_my/
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comment: p1kclf4 parent: t1_p1kagy0 -author: hero_in_time +author: [deleted] created_utc: 1785806961 edited: false body: -Why is this a bad idea? +[deleted] comment: p1kcuib parent: t1_p1kclf4Extracted text as captured
post: 1veuo5u author: sunnysideupslide created_utc: 1785802575 title: Cold card - so what do I have to do to secure my btc 100% body: After the cold card debacle I want to move away from any device that generates the seed phrase itself. I’m currently using Trezor simply because it was easy to set up and use. With this recent hack I’ve realised it’s foolish to trust a company to keep my crypto safe. I need to really get into it and learn how to secure my bitcoin. So what do I have to do to 100% secure my bitcoin against malicious actors? comment: p1jzxuv parent: t3_1veuo5u author: indomitus1 created_utc: 1785802806 edited: false body: I will look after it for you. Trust me bro comment: p1k00f9 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: crusadersandwich created_utc: 1785802830 edited: 1785807621 body: Create a new wallet, roll dice for each word of your BIP39 seed phrase and then move your BTC to the new wallet comment: p1k0q0a parent: t3_1veuo5u author: s1ammage created_utc: 1785803061 edited: false body: The only things that was 100% are death and taxes… comment: p1k0q53 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: beatthebook2x created_utc: 1785803062 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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post: 1veuo5u author: sunnysideupslide created_utc: 1785802575 title: Cold card - so what do I have to do to secure my btc 100% body: After the cold card debacle I want to move away from any device that generates the seed phrase itself. I’m currently using Trezor simply because it was easy to set up and use. With this recent hack I’ve realised it’s foolish to trust a company to keep my crypto safe. I need to really get into it and learn how to secure my bitcoin. So what do I have to do to 100% secure my bitcoin against malicious actors? comment: p1jzxuv parent: t3_1veuo5u author: indomitus1 created_utc: 1785802806 edited: false body: I will look after it for you. Trust me bro comment: p1k00f9 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: crusadersandwich created_utc: 1785802830 edited: 1785807621 body: Create a new wallet, roll dice for each word of your BIP39 seed phrase and then move your BTC to the new wallet comment: p1k0q0a parent: t3_1veuo5u author: s1ammage created_utc: 1785803061 edited: false body: The only things that was 100% are death and taxes… comment: p1k0q53 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: beatthebook2x created_utc: 1785803062 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The thread gained two terse recommendations, one to sell and one to use Bitkey.
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post: 1veuo5u author: sunnysideupslide created_utc: 1785802575 title: Cold card - so what do I have to do to secure my btc 100% body: After the cold card debacle I want to move away from any device that generates the seed phrase itself. I’m currently using Trezor simply because it was easy to set up and use. With this recent hack I’ve realised it’s foolish to trust a company to keep my crypto safe. I need to really get into it and learn how to secure my bitcoin. So what do I have to do to 100% secure my bitcoin against malicious actors? comment: p1jzxuv parent: t3_1veuo5u author: indomitus1 created_utc: 1785802806 edited: false body: I will look after it for you. Trust me bro comment: p1k00f9 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: crusadersandwich created_utc: 1785802830 edited: 1785807621 body: Create a new wallet, roll dice for each word of your BIP39 seed phrase and then move your BTC to the new wallet comment: p1k0q0a parent: t3_1veuo5u author: s1ammage created_utc: 1785803061 edited: false body: The only things that was 100% are death and taxes… comment: p1k0q53 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: beatthebook2x created_utc: 1785803062 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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post: 1veuo5u author: sunnysideupslide created_utc: 1785802575 title: Cold card - so what do I have to do to secure my btc 100% body: After the cold card debacle I want to move away from any device that generates the seed phrase itself. I’m currently using Trezor simply because it was easy to set up and use. With this recent hack I’ve realised it’s foolish to trust a company to keep my crypto safe. I need to really get into it and learn how to secure my bitcoin. So what do I have to do to 100% secure my bitcoin against malicious actors? comment: p1jzxuv parent: t3_1veuo5u author: indomitus1 created_utc: 1785802806 edited: false body: I will look after it for you. Trust me bro comment: p1k00f9 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: crusadersandwich created_utc: 1785802830 edited: 1785807621 body: Create a new wallet, roll dice for each word of your BIP39 seed phrase and then move your BTC to the new wallet comment: p1k0q0a parent: t3_1veuo5u author: s1ammage created_utc: 1785803061 edited: false body: The only things that was 100% are death and taxes… comment: p1k0q53 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: beatthebook2x created_utc: 1785803062 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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Reddit served a new exchange debating whether open source, public scrutiny and lack of known compromise justify confidence in Trezor's entropy generation.
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edited: false body: I thought the best way was too move it to a hard-drive and keep in unplugged from any computers? + +comment: p1ttuqn +parent: t1_p1n7dmj +author: Pale_Illustrator94 +created_utc: 1785925761 +edited: false +body: +I think the community should challenge any person making this claim on reddit. What authority do you have to speak to the quality of their entropy? + +comment: p1u0av2 +parent: t1_p1ttuqn +author: skr_replicator +created_utc: 1785928389 +edited: false +body: +The good thing with Trezor is that it's one of the few you shouldn't need authority to trust. It's open source, and if you are serious to verify their entropy, you could go there and test it yourself. I don't have any authority, and i didn't personally test it myself, but the fact they are fully open source, very widely used and scrutinized, and nobody has hacked it yet, is enough to give me some confidence in them. + +comment: p1u0ve3 +parent: t1_p1u0av2 +author: Pale_Illustrator94 +created_utc: 1785928606 +edited: false +body: +So the point I'm making is that the community needs to stop trusting claims of people that do not have technical skills making technical claims. Open source means nothing if it isn't reviewed. Nobody hacked coldcard until they did. Lack of hack is not validity. To be clear I'm not making any claims regarding the efficacy of trezor. I'm challenging you, and others to change mindset. + + +comment: p1u1mev +parent: t1_p1u0ve3 +author: skr_replicator +created_utc: 1785928891 +edited: 1785929270 +body: +It was more of a logical claim. Trezor is used and scrutinized to much more widely than Coldcard, it is actually open source and people are working with their code. That already should mean something. Could something still happen? Sure. But the likelihood that it would be Trezor, given everything I see, seems pretty low. They even developed their own state-of-the-art open-source chip to rival secure element and fix its problems, while being totally open and inviting everyone to "try crack me i bet you can't" instead of partially relying on obscurity like the SE. They really look like they know their shit and are very serious about security more than the other HW makers. + +comment: p1u1x25 +parent: t1_p1u1mev +author: Pale_Illustrator94 +created_utc: 1785929005 +edited: false +body: +Well, you are misusing the word logical. And "reliability of entropy" is absolutely a technical claim. + +comment: p1u33s1 +parent: t1_p1u1x25 +author: skr_replicator +created_utc: 1785929453 +edited: false +body: +Logical in that all these points I said contribute to an obviously lower likelihood of it being flawed. Heuristically. If you wanted something that is seriously secure, all of these circumstances are what you would expect in such a candidate to be present, and they are present. + +comment: p1u43n8 +parent: t1_p1u33s1 +author: Pale_Illustrator94 +created_utc: 1785929827 +edited: false +body: +Thanks for the laugh this morning.Extracted text as captured
post: 1veuo5u author: sunnysideupslide created_utc: 1785802575 title: Cold card - so what do I have to do to secure my btc 100% body: After the cold card debacle I want to move away from any device that generates the seed phrase itself. I’m currently using Trezor simply because it was easy to set up and use. With this recent hack I’ve realised it’s foolish to trust a company to keep my crypto safe. I need to really get into it and learn how to secure my bitcoin. So what do I have to do to 100% secure my bitcoin against malicious actors? comment: p1jzxuv parent: t3_1veuo5u author: indomitus1 created_utc: 1785802806 edited: false body: I will look after it for you. Trust me bro comment: p1k00f9 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: crusadersandwich created_utc: 1785802830 edited: 1785807621 body: Create a new wallet, roll dice for each word of your BIP39 seed phrase and then move your BTC to the new wallet comment: p1k0q0a parent: t3_1veuo5u author: s1ammage created_utc: 1785803061 edited: false body: The only things that was 100% are death and taxes… comment: p1k0q53 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: beatthebook2x created_utc: 1785803062 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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One comment about the tradeoff between security and access disappeared, and the thread gained a question about keeping bitcoin on an unplugged hard drive.
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edited: false body: Because it's technical and if you have no idea what you are doing you will mess up and your seed will get stolen - -comment: p1kddzk -parent: t1_p1kbmdr -author: idekwutp -created_utc: 1785807226 -edited: false -body: -Yeah security is inversely related to access. If something is 100% secure it’s 100% inaccessible comment: p1kdpme parent: t3_1veuo5u edited: false body: Just keep in an exchange that offers insurance limits 🤷♂️. + +comment: p1szcd1 +parent: t3_1veuo5u +author: krispykye +created_utc: 1785911211 +edited: false +body: +I thought the best way was too move it to a hard-drive and keep in unplugged from any computers?Extracted text as captured
post: 1veuo5u author: sunnysideupslide created_utc: 1785802575 title: Cold card - so what do I have to do to secure my btc 100% body: After the cold card debacle I want to move away from any device that generates the seed phrase itself. I’m currently using Trezor simply because it was easy to set up and use. With this recent hack I’ve realised it’s foolish to trust a company to keep my crypto safe. I need to really get into it and learn how to secure my bitcoin. So what do I have to do to 100% secure my bitcoin against malicious actors? comment: p1jzxuv parent: t3_1veuo5u author: indomitus1 created_utc: 1785802806 edited: false body: I will look after it for you. Trust me bro comment: p1k00f9 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: crusadersandwich created_utc: 1785802830 edited: 1785807621 body: Create a new wallet, roll dice for each word of your BIP39 seed phrase and then move your BTC to the new wallet comment: p1k0q0a parent: t3_1veuo5u author: s1ammage created_utc: 1785803061 edited: false body: The only things that was 100% are death and taxes… comment: p1k0q53 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: beatthebook2x created_utc: 1785803062 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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A Reddit comment was edited to correct punctuation in its discussion of historic fraud and the centralization of banking.
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parent: t1_p1ke1ah author: bustaphlex created_utc: 1785831282 -edited: false +edited: 1785891594 body: No one is panicking about it with cash and banks because traditional commerce has had thousands of years to mature and become regulated. No one is panicking about it with cash and banks because the government and the banks ultimately own the fiat they’ve let you hold temporarily, and they have a vested interest in the stability of those systems because they rely on it to keep you and I motivated to work. -People absolutely did lose money to scams and security issues in the early days of currency. commerce, banking and fiat, but those holes have been plugged, the legislation written, the systems progressively more centralised, customers progressively more known… you see where this is going… +People absolutely did lose money to scams and security issues in the early days of currency, commerce, banking and fiat, but those holes have been plugged, the legislation written, the systems progressively more centralised, customers progressively more known… you see where this is going… Part of the value of Bitcoin is its de-centralisation. With that comes some risk. If it’s outside your risk appetite, go buy indexes.Extracted text as captured
post: 1veuo5u author: sunnysideupslide created_utc: 1785802575 title: Cold card - so what do I have to do to secure my btc 100% body: After the cold card debacle I want to move away from any device that generates the seed phrase itself. I’m currently using Trezor simply because it was easy to set up and use. With this recent hack I’ve realised it’s foolish to trust a company to keep my crypto safe. I need to really get into it and learn how to secure my bitcoin. So what do I have to do to 100% secure my bitcoin against malicious actors? comment: p1jzxuv parent: t3_1veuo5u author: indomitus1 created_utc: 1785802806 edited: false body: I will look after it for you. Trust me bro comment: p1k00f9 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: crusadersandwich created_utc: 1785802830 edited: 1785807621 body: Create a new wallet, roll dice for each word of your BIP39 seed phrase and then move your BTC to the new wallet comment: p1k0q0a parent: t3_1veuo5u author: s1ammage created_utc: 1785803061 edited: false body: The only things that was 100% are death and taxes… comment: p1k0q53 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: beatthebook2x created_utc: 1785803062 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained 1 new comment recommending an insured exchange.
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This site lets you swap between all the different bitcoin layers. [https://boltz.exchange](https://boltz.exchange) + +comment: p1qlqn3 +parent: t3_1veuo5u +author: ComfortableGas5223 +created_utc: 1785881047 +edited: false +body: +Just keep in an exchange that offers insurance limits 🤷♂️.Extracted text as captured
post: 1veuo5u author: sunnysideupslide created_utc: 1785802575 title: Cold card - so what do I have to do to secure my btc 100% body: After the cold card debacle I want to move away from any device that generates the seed phrase itself. I’m currently using Trezor simply because it was easy to set up and use. With this recent hack I’ve realised it’s foolish to trust a company to keep my crypto safe. I need to really get into it and learn how to secure my bitcoin. So what do I have to do to 100% secure my bitcoin against malicious actors? comment: p1jzxuv parent: t3_1veuo5u author: indomitus1 created_utc: 1785802806 edited: false body: I will look after it for you. Trust me bro comment: p1k00f9 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: crusadersandwich created_utc: 1785802830 edited: 1785807621 body: Create a new wallet, roll dice for each word of your BIP39 seed phrase and then move your BTC to the new wallet comment: p1k0q0a parent: t3_1veuo5u author: s1ammage created_utc: 1785803061 edited: false body: The only things that was 100% are death and taxes… comment: p1k0q53 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: beatthebook2x created_utc: 1785803062 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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edited: false body: Looks like Nunchuk allows multi sig taproot but not familiar with them. + +comment: p1pelp4 +parent: t1_p1pclj4 +author: DreamingTooLong +created_utc: 1785869533 +edited: false +body: +Nunchuck supports the liquid network + +It’s a second layer similar to lightning network + +Liquid is private and it also supports swapping back-and-forth between BTC and USDT + +How it’s private is it still reports that a transaction happened but it doesn’t say the coin type or the quantity. + +There’s a wallet called aqua wallet that supports spending liquid network bitcoin at lightning network bitcoin addresses. Doing a transaction like that is two different layers of privacy. When you send a lightning network payment, they can’t look on a block explorer and see how much you have or where it came from. Same with liquid. + +This site lets you swap between all the different bitcoin layers. + +[https://boltz.exchange](https://boltz.exchange)Extracted text as captured
post: 1veuo5u author: sunnysideupslide created_utc: 1785802575 title: Cold card - so what do I have to do to secure my btc 100% body: After the cold card debacle I want to move away from any device that generates the seed phrase itself. I’m currently using Trezor simply because it was easy to set up and use. With this recent hack I’ve realised it’s foolish to trust a company to keep my crypto safe. I need to really get into it and learn how to secure my bitcoin. So what do I have to do to 100% secure my bitcoin against malicious actors? comment: p1jzxuv parent: t3_1veuo5u author: indomitus1 created_utc: 1785802806 edited: false body: I will look after it for you. Trust me bro comment: p1k00f9 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: crusadersandwich created_utc: 1785802830 edited: 1785807621 body: Create a new wallet, roll dice for each word of your BIP39 seed phrase and then move your BTC to the new wallet comment: p1k0q0a parent: t3_1veuo5u author: s1ammage created_utc: 1785803061 edited: false body: The only things that was 100% are death and taxes… comment: p1k0q53 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: beatthebook2x created_utc: 1785803062 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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parent: t1_p1m19j9 author: wegwerfi08 created_utc: 1785833139 -edited: false -body: -What you mean is FOSS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free\_and\_open-source\_software). Coldcard is OSS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source\_software) — without the F. +edited: 1785868106 +body: +What you mean is FOSS ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free\_and\_open-source\_software](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source_software)). Coldcard is OSS ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source\_software](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software)) — without the F, “buddy”. comment: p1m534h parent: t1_p1k6do4 body: ColdCard: 40 bit entropy is one grain of sand Usual 128 bit entropy is 300k earths full of sand + +comment: p1p73yr +parent: t1_p1oujx5 +author: H5Sooner +created_utc: 1785867658 +edited: false +body: +Looks like most of them where using taproot. bc1qnk4zh9qcnap2mycp56qjrgza3cc8ylrh8fecp0 + +comment: p1p8955 +parent: t1_p1p73yr +author: DreamingTooLong +created_utc: 1785867943 +edited: false +body: +Taproot addresses began with: + +bc1p + +Native Segwit addresses begin with: + +bc1q + +comment: p1p8rpm +parent: t1_p1p8955 +author: H5Sooner +created_utc: 1785868072 +edited: false +body: +Learned something new today. Thanks + +comment: p1p96ep +parent: t1_p1p8rpm +author: DreamingTooLong +created_utc: 1785868173 +edited: 1785868653 +body: +The address you provided only had 32 stolen BTC in it + +This address has 562 stolen BTC in it + +bc1qq85v2c926eg6pgxhwp6q7lf6cnsz80qs3fcu9r + +Taproot is cheaper when doing transactions that include multiple inputs. It’s also a little bit more private because it forces all transactions to look more alike. I use a platform that allows me to purchase BTC every 60 minutes and when the balance reaches a certain level, it automatically withdrawals to a taproot address on my nano x. + +comment: p1pbifi +parent: t1_p1p96ep +author: H5Sooner +created_utc: 1785868756 +edited: false +body: +I was just checking sparrow and you can't do muli sig taproot unfortunately. + +comment: p1pbtll +parent: t1_p1pbifi +author: DreamingTooLong +created_utc: 1785868834 +edited: false +body: +Oh, OK + +Then it’s no different than using electrum on tails OS unless you have your own node running + +comment: p1pclj4 +parent: t1_p1pbtll +author: H5Sooner +created_utc: 1785869031 +edited: false +body: +Looks like Nunchuk allows multi sig taproot but not familiar with them.Extracted text as captured
post: 1veuo5u author: sunnysideupslide created_utc: 1785802575 title: Cold card - so what do I have to do to secure my btc 100% body: After the cold card debacle I want to move away from any device that generates the seed phrase itself. I’m currently using Trezor simply because it was easy to set up and use. With this recent hack I’ve realised it’s foolish to trust a company to keep my crypto safe. I need to really get into it and learn how to secure my bitcoin. So what do I have to do to 100% secure my bitcoin against malicious actors? comment: p1jzxuv parent: t3_1veuo5u author: indomitus1 created_utc: 1785802806 edited: false body: I will look after it for you. Trust me bro comment: p1k00f9 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: crusadersandwich created_utc: 1785802830 edited: 1785807621 body: Create a new wallet, roll dice for each word of your BIP39 seed phrase and then move your BTC to the new wallet comment: p1k0q0a parent: t3_1veuo5u author: s1ammage created_utc: 1785803061 edited: false body: The only things that was 100% are death and taxes… comment: p1k0q53 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: beatthebook2x created_utc: 1785803062 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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Taproot is very easy on sparrow. I’m kind of curious how many people that lost all their BTC on coldcard were using taproot addresses. Probably very few. The bots that were sweeping people clean were probably looking at their native segwit addresses. + +comment: p1p44wx +parent: t3_1veuo5u +author: MrDryGuy_ +created_utc: 1785866923 +edited: false +body: +ColdCard: 40 bit entropy is one grain of sand +Usual 128 bit entropy is 300k earths full of sandExtracted text as captured
post: 1veuo5u author: sunnysideupslide created_utc: 1785802575 title: Cold card - so what do I have to do to secure my btc 100% body: After the cold card debacle I want to move away from any device that generates the seed phrase itself. I’m currently using Trezor simply because it was easy to set up and use. With this recent hack I’ve realised it’s foolish to trust a company to keep my crypto safe. I need to really get into it and learn how to secure my bitcoin. So what do I have to do to 100% secure my bitcoin against malicious actors? comment: p1jzxuv parent: t3_1veuo5u author: indomitus1 created_utc: 1785802806 edited: false body: I will look after it for you. Trust me bro comment: p1k00f9 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: crusadersandwich created_utc: 1785802830 edited: 1785807621 body: Create a new wallet, roll dice for each word of your BIP39 seed phrase and then move your BTC to the new wallet comment: p1k0q0a parent: t3_1veuo5u author: s1ammage created_utc: 1785803061 edited: false body: The only things that was 100% are death and taxes… comment: p1k0q53 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: beatthebook2x created_utc: 1785803062 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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edited: false body: Great insight here. A couple months from now I expect to read many stories about “moved my coins to x, now I can’t access them for reasons” + +comment: p1oujx5 +parent: t1_p1k9px9 +author: DreamingTooLong +created_utc: 1785864561 +edited: 1785864811 +body: +You can do the same thing with electrum built-in on tails OS + +I like sparrow more though, because it allows me to easily connect to my own node and I can’t quite figure out how to generate a taproot address on tails OS electrum. + +Taproot is very easy on sparrow. + +I’m kind of curious how many people that lost all their BTC on coldcard were using taproot addresses. Probably very few. The bots that were sweeping people clean were probably looking at their native segwit addresses.Extracted text as captured
post: 1veuo5u author: sunnysideupslide created_utc: 1785802575 title: Cold card - so what do I have to do to secure my btc 100% body: After the cold card debacle I want to move away from any device that generates the seed phrase itself. I’m currently using Trezor simply because it was easy to set up and use. With this recent hack I’ve realised it’s foolish to trust a company to keep my crypto safe. I need to really get into it and learn how to secure my bitcoin. So what do I have to do to 100% secure my bitcoin against malicious actors? comment: p1jzxuv parent: t3_1veuo5u author: indomitus1 created_utc: 1785802806 edited: false body: I will look after it for you. Trust me bro comment: p1k00f9 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: crusadersandwich created_utc: 1785802830 edited: 1785807621 body: Create a new wallet, roll dice for each word of your BIP39 seed phrase and then move your BTC to the new wallet comment: p1k0q0a parent: t3_1veuo5u author: s1ammage created_utc: 1785803061 edited: false body: The only things that was 100% are death and taxes… comment: p1k0q53 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: beatthebook2x created_utc: 1785803062 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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edited: false body: The seed still has a lot more entropy than a passphrase unless you make that passphrase really huge. If you really don't want to rely at all on a Hw entropy would would use the dice. Though I'm confident that Trezor has a pretty reliable entropy already. + +comment: p1odvwy +parent: t1_p1k6do4 +author: curiousengineer601 +created_utc: 1785860419 +edited: false +body: +Great insight here. A couple months from now I expect to read many stories about “moved my coins to x, now I can’t access them for reasons”Extracted text as captured
post: 1veuo5u author: sunnysideupslide created_utc: 1785802575 title: Cold card - so what do I have to do to secure my btc 100% body: After the cold card debacle I want to move away from any device that generates the seed phrase itself. I’m currently using Trezor simply because it was easy to set up and use. With this recent hack I’ve realised it’s foolish to trust a company to keep my crypto safe. I need to really get into it and learn how to secure my bitcoin. So what do I have to do to 100% secure my bitcoin against malicious actors? comment: p1jzxuv parent: t3_1veuo5u author: indomitus1 created_utc: 1785802806 edited: false body: I will look after it for you. Trust me bro comment: p1k00f9 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: crusadersandwich created_utc: 1785802830 edited: 1785807621 body: Create a new wallet, roll dice for each word of your BIP39 seed phrase and then move your BTC to the new wallet comment: p1k0q0a parent: t3_1veuo5u author: s1ammage created_utc: 1785803061 edited: false body: The only things that was 100% are death and taxes… comment: p1k0q53 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: beatthebook2x created_utc: 1785803062 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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edited: false body: safest way is to create your own cryptographic hash function and then make your own cryptocurrency + +comment: p1mczba +parent: t1_p1k36m2 +author: One-Adhesiveness-138 +created_utc: 1785838062 +edited: false +body: +A 2 min Google search will give you such answers. + +I'm afraid if you require such spoonfeeding then self custody may not be your best option. + +comment: p1mhv16 +parent: t3_1veuo5u +author: CiaranCarroll +created_utc: 1785840188 +edited: false +body: +I like Cold Card Q for this. Combined with Ian Coleman's website (and probably others) I can verify core functionality works, minimises trust in developers. + +Mine worked exactly as intended. + +comment: p1n7dmj +parent: t1_p1kjiao +author: skr_replicator +created_utc: 1785849101 +edited: false +body: +The seed still has a lot more entropy than a passphrase unless you make that passphrase really huge. If you really don't want to rely at all on a Hw entropy would would use the dice. Though I'm confident that Trezor has a pretty reliable entropy already.Extracted text as captured
post: 1veuo5u author: sunnysideupslide created_utc: 1785802575 title: Cold card - so what do I have to do to secure my btc 100% body: After the cold card debacle I want to move away from any device that generates the seed phrase itself. I’m currently using Trezor simply because it was easy to set up and use. With this recent hack I’ve realised it’s foolish to trust a company to keep my crypto safe. I need to really get into it and learn how to secure my bitcoin. So what do I have to do to 100% secure my bitcoin against malicious actors? comment: p1jzxuv parent: t3_1veuo5u author: indomitus1 created_utc: 1785802806 edited: false body: I will look after it for you. Trust me bro comment: p1k00f9 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: crusadersandwich created_utc: 1785802830 edited: 1785807621 body: Create a new wallet, roll dice for each word of your BIP39 seed phrase and then move your BTC to the new wallet comment: p1k0q0a parent: t3_1veuo5u author: s1ammage created_utc: 1785803061 edited: false body: The only things that was 100% are death and taxes… comment: p1k0q53 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: beatthebook2x created_utc: 1785803062 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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post: 1veuo5u author: sunnysideupslide created_utc: 1785802575 title: Cold card - so what do I have to do to secure my btc 100% body: After the cold card debacle I want to move away from any device that generates the seed phrase itself. I’m currently using Trezor simply because it was easy to set up and use. With this recent hack I’ve realised it’s foolish to trust a company to keep my crypto safe. I need to really get into it and learn how to secure my bitcoin. So what do I have to do to 100% secure my bitcoin against malicious actors? comment: p1jzxuv parent: t3_1veuo5u author: indomitus1 created_utc: 1785802806 edited: false body: I will look after it for you. Trust me bro comment: p1k00f9 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: crusadersandwich created_utc: 1785802830 edited: 1785807621 body: Create a new wallet, roll dice for each word of your BIP39 seed phrase and then move your BTC to the new wallet comment: p1k0q0a parent: t3_1veuo5u author: s1ammage created_utc: 1785803061 edited: false body: The only things that was 100% are death and taxes… comment: p1k0q53 parent: t3_1veuo5u author: beatthebook2x created_utc: 1785803062 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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