r/coldcard: relay of the shipments-halted announcement
reddit-shipments-halted-relay
https://www.reddit.com/r/coldcard/comments/1vdpnza/they_halted_shipments_of_coldcards_and_destroyed/
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The thread gained a comment blaming nvk for not giving the incident enough attention.
No. Its pure economics. A+B > C
Shipping + patching costs more that producing new. Cheaper to destroy the compromised stock and produce new.
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+parent: t1_p1dfoz0
+author: uniicorn77
+created_utc: 1786309473
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The thread gained a comment blaming nvk for not giving the incident enough attention.
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No. Its pure economics. A+B > C Shipping + patching costs more that producing new. Cheaper to destroy the compromised stock and produce new. + +comment: p2ps7a5 +parent: t1_p1dfoz0 +author: uniicorn77 +created_utc: 1786309473 +edited: false +body: +yes i heard people talking so much shit about nvk, and blaming him for not putting in the required attention to thisExtracted text as captured
post: 1vdpnza author: AnthonyBTC created_utc: 1785695558 title: They halted shipments of Coldcards and destroyed the remaining inventory body: [https://x.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/2083977229084578060](https://x.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/2083977229084578060) Literally just ordered one before all of this started. I probably won’t even get the hardware, not that I want it anymore, and I probably won’t get my money back either. comment: p1axqq2 parent: t3_1vdpnza author: ConsequenceFew6931 created_utc: 1785696376 edited: false body: I loved my ColdCard Q. In my opinion, it was one of the easiest to use hardware wallets and also really nicely designed. It’s extremely sad to see what happened because they didn’t do their due diligence and verify the code… comment: p1b204u parent: t3_1vdpnza author: AnthonyBTC created_utc: 1785697547 edited: 1785948884 body: [u/HodlDee](https://www.reddit.com/user/HodlDee/) Refund all pending orders I want my money back. comment: p1bay20 parent: t1_p1axqq2 author: ardevd created_utc: 1785700031 edited: false body: Their CTO literally just pushed the vulnerable commit along with another one that change the core functionality of the firmware. The commit messages were "runs" and "x". Yes, the hardware was cool and had a lot of useful features, but the dev practices behind it is a disaster. comment: p1bdffv parent: t1_p1bay20 author: ConsequenceFew6931 created_utc: 1785700731 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The thread gained several new comments, including one calling the halt 'rats deserting a sinking ship', an exchange asking whether another poster is defending CoinKite, and a cost-based explanation for destroying compromised stock.
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What changed from the previous capture 42 lines
edited: false body: This should be taken down quite honestly considering they didn’t destroy remaining inventory like it says but affected devices. I cancelled my order and received 2 today in the mail even though I got my money back. + +comment: p2fqu6b +parent: t1_p1cr9vq +author: Skinny_Human +created_utc: 1786185116 +edited: false +body: +It’s called ‘rats deserting a sinking ship’ and covering their asses on the way out + +comment: p2fqx9g +parent: t1_p1cnrsq +author: Skinny_Human +created_utc: 1786185157 +edited: false +body: +Is it me or does it sound like you’re defending CoinKite?!! + +comment: p2fr3qa +parent: t1_p2fqx9g +author: zootreddit +created_utc: 1786185243 +edited: false +body: +Its you. + +comment: p2fr65k +parent: t1_p2fr3qa +author: Skinny_Human +created_utc: 1786185275 +edited: false +body: +*kicks dirt* + +comment: p2gtw4s +parent: t1_p2fqu6b +author: Charming-Designer944 +created_utc: 1786199559 +edited: false +body: +No. Its pure economics. A+B > C + +Shipping + patching costs more that producing new. Cheaper to destroy the compromised stock and produce new.Extracted text as captured
post: 1vdpnza author: AnthonyBTC created_utc: 1785695558 title: They halted shipments of Coldcards and destroyed the remaining inventory body: [https://x.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/2083977229084578060](https://x.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/2083977229084578060) Literally just ordered one before all of this started. I probably won’t even get the hardware, not that I want it anymore, and I probably won’t get my money back either. comment: p1axqq2 parent: t3_1vdpnza author: ConsequenceFew6931 created_utc: 1785696376 edited: false body: I loved my ColdCard Q. In my opinion, it was one of the easiest to use hardware wallets and also really nicely designed. It’s extremely sad to see what happened because they didn’t do their due diligence and verify the code… comment: p1b204u parent: t3_1vdpnza author: AnthonyBTC created_utc: 1785697547 edited: 1785948884 body: [u/HodlDee](https://www.reddit.com/user/HodlDee/) Refund all pending orders I want my money back. comment: p1bay20 parent: t1_p1axqq2 author: ardevd created_utc: 1785700031 edited: false body: Their CTO literally just pushed the vulnerable commit along with another one that change the core functionality of the firmware. The commit messages were "runs" and "x". Yes, the hardware was cool and had a lot of useful features, but the dev practices behind it is a disaster. comment: p1bdffv parent: t1_p1bay20 author: ConsequenceFew6931 created_utc: 1785700731 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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Two new comments: Knowledge775 wants a refund over destroyed inventory, and AntZealousideal3728 says the post should be taken down because affected devices, not remaining inventory, were destroyed and their cancelled order still arrived.
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What changed from the previous capture 16 lines
edited: false body: coldcard is junk.. ya should of bought Trezor + +comment: p23yp5x +parent: t3_1vdpnza +author: Knowledge775 +created_utc: 1786040370 +edited: false +body: +So the fact that they destroyed inventory instead of doing a firmware update on site makes me want a refund on my coldcard inventory. + +comment: p26go41 +parent: t3_1vdpnza +author: AntZealousideal3728 +created_utc: 1786066017 +edited: false +body: +This should be taken down quite honestly considering they didn’t destroy remaining inventory like it says but affected devices. I cancelled my order and received 2 today in the mail even though I got my money back.Extracted text as captured
post: 1vdpnza author: AnthonyBTC created_utc: 1785695558 title: They halted shipments of Coldcards and destroyed the remaining inventory body: [https://x.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/2083977229084578060](https://x.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/2083977229084578060) Literally just ordered one before all of this started. I probably won’t even get the hardware, not that I want it anymore, and I probably won’t get my money back either. comment: p1axqq2 parent: t3_1vdpnza author: ConsequenceFew6931 created_utc: 1785696376 edited: false body: I loved my ColdCard Q. In my opinion, it was one of the easiest to use hardware wallets and also really nicely designed. It’s extremely sad to see what happened because they didn’t do their due diligence and verify the code… comment: p1b204u parent: t3_1vdpnza author: AnthonyBTC created_utc: 1785697547 edited: 1785948884 body: [u/HodlDee](https://www.reddit.com/user/HodlDee/) Refund all pending orders I want my money back. comment: p1bay20 parent: t1_p1axqq2 author: ardevd created_utc: 1785700031 edited: false body: Their CTO literally just pushed the vulnerable commit along with another one that change the core functionality of the firmware. The commit messages were "runs" and "x". Yes, the hardware was cool and had a lot of useful features, but the dev practices behind it is a disaster. comment: p1bdffv parent: t1_p1bay20 author: ConsequenceFew6931 created_utc: 1785700731 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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Two new comments: a laughing reaction from Luiz4823, and Clean_Earth1587 calling Coldcard junk and recommending Trezor.
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edited: false body: So lucky I cancelled my order and they actually didn’t ship it out and stick me with it. + +comment: p21gasd +parent: t1_p1t7tzg +author: Luiz4823 +created_utc: 1786015988 +edited: false +body: +Lmao 😭 + +comment: p21loyn +parent: t3_1vdpnza +author: Clean_Earth1587 +created_utc: 1786017902 +edited: false +body: +coldcard is junk.. ya should of bought TrezorExtracted text as captured
post: 1vdpnza author: AnthonyBTC created_utc: 1785695558 title: They halted shipments of Coldcards and destroyed the remaining inventory body: [https://x.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/2083977229084578060](https://x.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/2083977229084578060) Literally just ordered one before all of this started. I probably won’t even get the hardware, not that I want it anymore, and I probably won’t get my money back either. comment: p1axqq2 parent: t3_1vdpnza author: ConsequenceFew6931 created_utc: 1785696376 edited: false body: I loved my ColdCard Q. In my opinion, it was one of the easiest to use hardware wallets and also really nicely designed. It’s extremely sad to see what happened because they didn’t do their due diligence and verify the code… comment: p1b204u parent: t3_1vdpnza author: AnthonyBTC created_utc: 1785697547 edited: 1785948884 body: [u/HodlDee](https://www.reddit.com/user/HodlDee/) Refund all pending orders I want my money back. comment: p1bay20 parent: t1_p1axqq2 author: ardevd created_utc: 1785700031 edited: false body: Their CTO literally just pushed the vulnerable commit along with another one that change the core functionality of the firmware. The commit messages were "runs" and "x". Yes, the hardware was cool and had a lot of useful features, but the dev practices behind it is a disaster. comment: p1bdffv parent: t1_p1bay20 author: ConsequenceFew6931 created_utc: 1785700731 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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New comment from AntZealousideal3728 saying they were lucky to have cancelled their order before it shipped.
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What changed from the previous capture 8 lines
“Right now, our full focus is helping affected users migrate safely.” Really? They gonna help me migrate the coins I no longer have? + +comment: p1zwo37 +parent: t3_1vdpnza +author: AntZealousideal3728 +created_utc: 1785990378 +edited: false +body: +So lucky I cancelled my order and they actually didn’t ship it out and stick me with it.Extracted text as captured
post: 1vdpnza author: AnthonyBTC created_utc: 1785695558 title: They halted shipments of Coldcards and destroyed the remaining inventory body: [https://x.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/2083977229084578060](https://x.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/2083977229084578060) Literally just ordered one before all of this started. I probably won’t even get the hardware, not that I want it anymore, and I probably won’t get my money back either. comment: p1axqq2 parent: t3_1vdpnza author: ConsequenceFew6931 created_utc: 1785696376 edited: false body: I loved my ColdCard Q. In my opinion, it was one of the easiest to use hardware wallets and also really nicely designed. It’s extremely sad to see what happened because they didn’t do their due diligence and verify the code… comment: p1b204u parent: t3_1vdpnza author: AnthonyBTC created_utc: 1785697547 edited: 1785948884 body: [u/HodlDee](https://www.reddit.com/user/HodlDee/) Refund all pending orders I want my money back. comment: p1bay20 parent: t1_p1axqq2 author: ardevd created_utc: 1785700031 edited: false body: Their CTO literally just pushed the vulnerable commit along with another one that change the core functionality of the firmware. The commit messages were "runs" and "x". Yes, the hardware was cool and had a lot of useful features, but the dev practices behind it is a disaster. comment: p1bdffv parent: t1_p1bay20 author: ConsequenceFew6931 created_utc: 1785700731 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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A commenter edited a refund request, removing the order reference while keeping the request for all pending orders to be refunded.
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What changed from the previous capture 6 lines
parent: t3_1vdpnza author: AnthonyBTC created_utc: 1785697547 -edited: 1785697979 -body: -[u/HodlDee](https://www.reddit.com/user/HodlDee/) Refund all pending orders I want my money back. ACAV46UK-SCFC4AT3 +edited: 1785948884 +body: +[u/HodlDee](https://www.reddit.com/user/HodlDee/) Refund all pending orders I want my money back. comment: p1bay20 parent: t1_p1axqq2Extracted text as captured
post: 1vdpnza author: AnthonyBTC created_utc: 1785695558 title: They halted shipments of Coldcards and destroyed the remaining inventory body: [https://x.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/2083977229084578060](https://x.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/2083977229084578060) Literally just ordered one before all of this started. I probably won’t even get the hardware, not that I want it anymore, and I probably won’t get my money back either. comment: p1axqq2 parent: t3_1vdpnza author: ConsequenceFew6931 created_utc: 1785696376 edited: false body: I loved my ColdCard Q. In my opinion, it was one of the easiest to use hardware wallets and also really nicely designed. It’s extremely sad to see what happened because they didn’t do their due diligence and verify the code… comment: p1b204u parent: t3_1vdpnza author: AnthonyBTC created_utc: 1785697547 edited: 1785948884 body: [u/HodlDee](https://www.reddit.com/user/HodlDee/) Refund all pending orders I want my money back. comment: p1bay20 parent: t1_p1axqq2 author: ardevd created_utc: 1785700031 edited: false body: Their CTO literally just pushed the vulnerable commit along with another one that change the core functionality of the firmware. The commit messages were "runs" and "x". Yes, the hardware was cool and had a lot of useful features, but the dev practices behind it is a disaster. comment: p1bdffv parent: t1_p1bay20 author: ConsequenceFew6931 created_utc: 1785700731 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The thread gained a reply questioning how migration assistance could help people whose coins were already gone.
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edited: false body: Makes zero sense no one destroys hardware to not swap firmware + +comment: p1t7tzg +parent: t3_1vdpnza +author: Immediate-Ad-5878 +created_utc: 1785915274 +edited: false +body: +“Right now, our full focus is helping affected users migrate safely.” + +Really? They gonna help me migrate the coins I no longer have?Extracted text as captured
post: 1vdpnza author: AnthonyBTC created_utc: 1785695558 title: They halted shipments of Coldcards and destroyed the remaining inventory body: [https://x.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/2083977229084578060](https://x.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/2083977229084578060) Literally just ordered one before all of this started. I probably won’t even get the hardware, not that I want it anymore, and I probably won’t get my money back either. comment: p1axqq2 parent: t3_1vdpnza author: ConsequenceFew6931 created_utc: 1785696376 edited: false body: I loved my ColdCard Q. In my opinion, it was one of the easiest to use hardware wallets and also really nicely designed. It’s extremely sad to see what happened because they didn’t do their due diligence and verify the code… comment: p1b204u parent: t3_1vdpnza author: AnthonyBTC created_utc: 1785697547 edited: 1785697979 body: [u/HodlDee](https://www.reddit.com/user/HodlDee/) Refund all pending orders I want my money back. ACAV46UK-SCFC4AT3 comment: p1bay20 parent: t1_p1axqq2 author: ardevd created_utc: 1785700031 edited: false body: Their CTO literally just pushed the vulnerable commit along with another one that change the core functionality of the firmware. The commit messages were "runs" and "x". Yes, the hardware was cool and had a lot of useful features, but the dev practices behind it is a disaster. comment: p1bdffv parent: t1_p1bay20 author: ConsequenceFew6931 created_utc: 1785700731 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained 1 new comment.
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What changed from the previous capture 8 lines
edited: false body: They should provide a destruction certificate from the ewaste company to show some transparency + +comment: p1pr48c +parent: t1_p1cr9vq +author: mcampbell42 +created_utc: 1785872778 +edited: false +body: +Makes zero sense no one destroys hardware to not swap firmwareExtracted text as captured
post: 1vdpnza author: AnthonyBTC created_utc: 1785695558 title: They halted shipments of Coldcards and destroyed the remaining inventory body: [https://x.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/2083977229084578060](https://x.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/2083977229084578060) Literally just ordered one before all of this started. I probably won’t even get the hardware, not that I want it anymore, and I probably won’t get my money back either. comment: p1axqq2 parent: t3_1vdpnza author: ConsequenceFew6931 created_utc: 1785696376 edited: false body: I loved my ColdCard Q. In my opinion, it was one of the easiest to use hardware wallets and also really nicely designed. It’s extremely sad to see what happened because they didn’t do their due diligence and verify the code… comment: p1b204u parent: t3_1vdpnza author: AnthonyBTC created_utc: 1785697547 edited: 1785697979 body: [u/HodlDee](https://www.reddit.com/user/HodlDee/) Refund all pending orders I want my money back. ACAV46UK-SCFC4AT3 comment: p1bay20 parent: t1_p1axqq2 author: ardevd created_utc: 1785700031 edited: false body: Their CTO literally just pushed the vulnerable commit along with another one that change the core functionality of the firmware. The commit messages were "runs" and "x". Yes, the hardware was cool and had a lot of useful features, but the dev practices behind it is a disaster. comment: p1bdffv parent: t1_p1bay20 author: ConsequenceFew6931 created_utc: 1785700731 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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An existing Reddit comment no longer appeared in the captured thread.
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body: Please share -comment: p1edd6m -parent: t1_p1cv75o -author: Either_Display_6624 -created_utc: 1785738981 -edited: false -body: -Bro it doesnt cost 30$ lol trust me - comment: p1edeit parent: t3_1vdpnza author: rottiesrule88Extracted text as captured
post: 1vdpnza author: AnthonyBTC created_utc: 1785695558 title: They halted shipments of Coldcards and destroyed the remaining inventory body: [https://x.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/2083977229084578060](https://x.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/2083977229084578060) Literally just ordered one before all of this started. I probably won’t even get the hardware, not that I want it anymore, and I probably won’t get my money back either. comment: p1axqq2 parent: t3_1vdpnza author: ConsequenceFew6931 created_utc: 1785696376 edited: false body: I loved my ColdCard Q. In my opinion, it was one of the easiest to use hardware wallets and also really nicely designed. It’s extremely sad to see what happened because they didn’t do their due diligence and verify the code… comment: p1b204u parent: t3_1vdpnza author: AnthonyBTC created_utc: 1785697547 edited: 1785697979 body: [u/HodlDee](https://www.reddit.com/user/HodlDee/) Refund all pending orders I want my money back. ACAV46UK-SCFC4AT3 comment: p1bay20 parent: t1_p1axqq2 author: ardevd created_utc: 1785700031 edited: false body: Their CTO literally just pushed the vulnerable commit along with another one that change the core functionality of the firmware. The commit messages were "runs" and "x". Yes, the hardware was cool and had a lot of useful features, but the dev practices behind it is a disaster. comment: p1bdffv parent: t1_p1bay20 author: ConsequenceFew6931 created_utc: 1785700731 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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post: 1vdpnza author: AnthonyBTC created_utc: 1785695558 title: They halted shipments of Coldcards and destroyed the remaining inventory body: [https://x.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/2083977229084578060](https://x.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/2083977229084578060) Literally just ordered one before all of this started. I probably won’t even get the hardware, not that I want it anymore, and I probably won’t get my money back either. comment: p1axqq2 parent: t3_1vdpnza author: ConsequenceFew6931 created_utc: 1785696376 edited: false body: I loved my ColdCard Q. In my opinion, it was one of the easiest to use hardware wallets and also really nicely designed. It’s extremely sad to see what happened because they didn’t do their due diligence and verify the code… comment: p1b204u parent: t3_1vdpnza author: AnthonyBTC created_utc: 1785697547 edited: 1785697979 body: [u/HodlDee](https://www.reddit.com/user/HodlDee/) Refund all pending orders I want my money back. ACAV46UK-SCFC4AT3 comment: p1bay20 parent: t1_p1axqq2 author: ardevd created_utc: 1785700031 edited: false body: Their CTO literally just pushed the vulnerable commit along with another one that change the core functionality of the firmware. The commit messages were "runs" and "x". Yes, the hardware was cool and had a lot of useful features, but the dev practices behind it is a disaster. comment: p1bdffv parent: t1_p1bay20 author: ConsequenceFew6931 created_utc: 1785700731 edited: falseExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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