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r/coldcard: first-hand report of wasted Coinkite steel plates after the forced migration

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https://www.reddit.com/r/coldcard/comments/1vkqgos/steel_plates_100_waste/

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The Reddit thread gained a reply from Oxymorix saying 'You should have rolled your own.'

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 Like [https://a.co/d/0gTJZSu6](https://a.co/d/0gTJZSu6) or [https://a.co/d/0bHdnPqR](https://a.co/d/0bHdnPqR) [https://a.co/d/0i4oInDJ](https://a.co/d/0i4oInDJ)
 
 I don't use steel for my backup seed but learning from coldcard experience I will use a steel plate I can change my seed  moving forward
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+author: Oxymorix
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    The Reddit thread gained a reply from Oxymorix saying 'You should have rolled your own.'

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     Like [https://a.co/d/0gTJZSu6](https://a.co/d/0gTJZSu6) or [https://a.co/d/0bHdnPqR](https://a.co/d/0bHdnPqR) [https://a.co/d/0i4oInDJ](https://a.co/d/0i4oInDJ)
     
     I don't use steel for my backup seed but learning from coldcard experience I will use a steel plate I can change my seed  moving forward
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    +You should have rolled your own. 
    
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    post: 1vkqgos
    author: lysergicpoptarts
    created_utc: 1786380947
    title: Steel Plates $100+ waste
    body:
    So I got steel plates when I bought my cold cards. Around $50 a pop. Now over $100+ of worthless steel with "compromised" seed phrases punched into them due to me trusting cold card.This is the "Gold Standard".Don't trust, do it yourself or you'll lose money to companies like this. Lesson learned.
    
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    parent: t3_1vkqgos
    author: 6thcoin
    created_utc: 1786381122
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    8mm fender washers and a blockmit.
    
    comment: p2vb5b0
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    author: insubordinate_kralc
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    This is the way
    
    comment: p2ve508
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    author: marvinrabbit
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    body:
    Yup. A stack of 24mm M8 washers fit nicely into a holder for collectable quarters. For anyone else reading, this technique is called "Safu Ninja". You will have very reasonable startup expenses for hammer, stamps, etc. But the per wallet cost of a handful of washers is **tiny**.
    
    comment: p2vffcu
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    Don’t trust? Verify? Few understand 
    
    comment: p2vgzi8

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    Several comments were deleted or marked [deleted] and new replies were added debating seed backup security and suggesting reusable steel plates.

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    -They were always a waste, cause they do not solve anything. It protects from fire, but doesn't protect from theft. So you would still need to store same phrase in two different places, then the protection from fire becomes irrelevant.
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    -And your other copy in other place would be completely safe. Your reading comprehension is bit lacking.
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     Where would you store the other copy besides your home? Please don't tell me you keep a copy in a safety deposit box or your comprehension is a bit lacking
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    +Ah yes. Tell us adults here with dead parents. Wait till you grow up and you don't have anymore family or people you trust to leave seed phrases with 10's-100's of thousands of dollars at their house. Top tier security.
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    +This guy is a complete fool. Dont listen to him 
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    +author: lysergicpoptarts
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    +You're right. He said you have a reading comprehension problem and his method is %100 percent secure only to delete his comment when called out and proven wrong. That's reddit for ya.
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    +comment: p3hl6oo
    +parent: t3_1vkqgos
    +author: xirvin
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    +Op  you should look at cheaper options to update your steel plate seeds. There are some steel plates you can reuse if you change your seeds
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    +Like [https://a.co/d/0gTJZSu6](https://a.co/d/0gTJZSu6) or [https://a.co/d/0bHdnPqR](https://a.co/d/0bHdnPqR) [https://a.co/d/0i4oInDJ](https://a.co/d/0i4oInDJ)
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    +I don't use steel for my backup seed but learning from coldcard experience I will use a steel plate I can change my seed  moving forward
    
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    post: 1vkqgos
    author: lysergicpoptarts
    created_utc: 1786380947
    title: Steel Plates $100+ waste
    body:
    So I got steel plates when I bought my cold cards. Around $50 a pop. Now over $100+ of worthless steel with "compromised" seed phrases punched into them due to me trusting cold card.This is the "Gold Standard".Don't trust, do it yourself or you'll lose money to companies like this. Lesson learned.
    
    comment: p2va5z7
    parent: t3_1vkqgos
    author: 6thcoin
    created_utc: 1786381122
    edited: false
    body:
    8mm fender washers and a blockmit.
    
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    author: insubordinate_kralc
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    This is the way
    
    comment: p2ve508
    parent: t1_p2va5z7
    author: marvinrabbit
    created_utc: 1786382117
    edited: false
    body:
    Yup. A stack of 24mm M8 washers fit nicely into a holder for collectable quarters. For anyone else reading, this technique is called "Safu Ninja". You will have very reasonable startup expenses for hammer, stamps, etc. But the per wallet cost of a handful of washers is **tiny**.
    
    comment: p2vffcu
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    author: Elistheman
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    Don’t trust? Verify? Few understand 
    
    comment: p2vgzi8

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    post: 1vkqgos
    author: lysergicpoptarts
    created_utc: 1786380947
    title: Steel Plates $100+ waste
    body:
    So I got steel plates when I bought my cold cards. Around $50 a pop. Now over $100+ of worthless steel with "compromised" seed phrases punched into them due to me trusting cold card.This is the "Gold Standard".Don't trust, do it yourself or you'll lose money to companies like this. Lesson learned.
    
    comment: p2va5z7
    parent: t3_1vkqgos
    author: 6thcoin
    created_utc: 1786381122
    edited: false
    body:
    8mm fender washers and a blockmit.
    
    comment: p2vb5b0
    parent: t1_p2va5z7
    author: insubordinate_kralc
    created_utc: 1786381368
    edited: false
    body:
    This is the way
    
    comment: p2ve508
    parent: t1_p2va5z7
    author: marvinrabbit
    created_utc: 1786382117
    edited: false
    body:
    Yup. A stack of 24mm M8 washers fit nicely into a holder for collectable quarters. For anyone else reading, this technique is called "Safu Ninja". You will have very reasonable startup expenses for hammer, stamps, etc. But the per wallet cost of a handful of washers is **tiny**.
    
    comment: p2vffcu
    parent: t3_1vkqgos
    author: Elistheman
    created_utc: 1786382437
    edited: false
    body:
    Don’t trust? Verify? Few understand 
    
    comment: p2vgzi8

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