r/Bitcoin: whether to throw away a COLDCARD
reddit-throw-away-coldcard
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1veuene/do_i_throw_away_my_coldcard/
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Trezor seems to have a decent track record
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body: Trezor seems to have a decent track record -comment: p1klqw9 -parent: t3_1veuene -author: According-Rain-1936 -created_utc: 1785810013 -edited: false -body: -yes - comment: p1knvvd parent: t1_p1kktig author: jb7734Extracted text as captured
post: 1veuene author: jb7734 created_utc: 1785801899 title: Do I throw away my Coldcard? body: Hey guys! I’m a long time bitcoin holder. I don’t have a huge stack but it’s a decent chunk and the entirety has been in storage in my Coldcard Q pretty much since that device launched. I migrated over to it from a Mark 3 and made a new wallet on the Q using 24 words generated by the device with no dice rolls or passphrase. When I first saw the reports of what was happening on Saturday night my stomach sank. I checked my wallet app with my heart racing and saw that my coins were untouched right where I left them. I feel extremely lucky that my btc wasn’t stolen, and I immediately moved the coin to my Coinbase account temporarily. My next steps were wiping the old seed, upgrading the firmware on the Coldcard and generating a new seed. I also added about 80 dice rolls this time obviously not trusting that Coldcard got it right this time. I moved my BTC back to this new cold wallet but now I’m feeling uncertain if I should dump this device completely and get something else. Am I safe with the dice rolls added entropy? I’m curious what other Coldcard users are doing now. TLDR: my Coldcard didn’t get hacked but I’m still using it, now with added dice rolls. Am I safe or should I get something new? comment: p1jxrl2 parent: t3_1veuene author: QuailRadiant7344 created_utc: 1785802111 edited: false body: You have balls of steel bro. comment: p1jy3zi parent: t3_1veuene author: buddhac2is created_utc: 1785802222 edited: false body: Yes comment: p1jy4si parent: t3_1veuene author: Doritos707 created_utc: 1785802229 edited: false body: Real answer. If you rolled more than 50 dice rolls, and are using 24 words seeds, you are safe. comment: p1jy6q4 parent: t3_1veuene author: Constant-Number4020 created_utc: 1785802246 edited: false body: I'm sticking with my Q.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained 2 new comments about device replacement and seed entropy.
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edited: false body: So, does that mean storing Bitcoin in a cold wallet ultimately depends on a third-party company staying in business forever? + +comment: p1qajqy +parent: t1_p1l4n9p +author: R7SOA19281 +created_utc: 1785877947 +edited: false +body: +Don’t they have like an extra 100 million now? /s + +comment: p1qb7r9 +parent: t1_p1mziox +author: First-Check-164 +created_utc: 1785878126 +edited: false +body: +Depends on if you want updated hardware or not. Things change with time. If your 24 words have proper entropy, you are good.Extracted text as captured
post: 1veuene author: jb7734 created_utc: 1785801899 title: Do I throw away my Coldcard? body: Hey guys! I’m a long time bitcoin holder. I don’t have a huge stack but it’s a decent chunk and the entirety has been in storage in my Coldcard Q pretty much since that device launched. I migrated over to it from a Mark 3 and made a new wallet on the Q using 24 words generated by the device with no dice rolls or passphrase. When I first saw the reports of what was happening on Saturday night my stomach sank. I checked my wallet app with my heart racing and saw that my coins were untouched right where I left them. I feel extremely lucky that my btc wasn’t stolen, and I immediately moved the coin to my Coinbase account temporarily. My next steps were wiping the old seed, upgrading the firmware on the Coldcard and generating a new seed. I also added about 80 dice rolls this time obviously not trusting that Coldcard got it right this time. I moved my BTC back to this new cold wallet but now I’m feeling uncertain if I should dump this device completely and get something else. Am I safe with the dice rolls added entropy? I’m curious what other Coldcard users are doing now. TLDR: my Coldcard didn’t get hacked but I’m still using it, now with added dice rolls. Am I safe or should I get something new? comment: p1jxrl2 parent: t3_1veuene author: QuailRadiant7344 created_utc: 1785802111 edited: false body: You have balls of steel bro. comment: p1jy3zi parent: t3_1veuene author: buddhac2is created_utc: 1785802222 edited: false body: Yes comment: p1jy4si parent: t3_1veuene author: Doritos707 created_utc: 1785802229 edited: false body: Real answer. If you rolled more than 50 dice rolls, and are using 24 words seeds, you are safe. comment: p1jy6q4 parent: t3_1veuene author: Constant-Number4020 created_utc: 1785802246 edited: false body: I'm sticking with my Q.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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Two new comments were posted: DoctorDownvotesDelux noting a seed generated elsewhere and imported should be fine though they probably would not, and NuggedClarp asking whether cold storage ultimately depends on a third-party company staying in business.
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edited: false body: That's why I only have minimal funds at banks + +comment: p1mz4l2 +parent: t3_1veuene +author: DoctorDownvotesDelux +created_utc: 1785846545 +edited: false +body: +The problem was with how it generated your seed. If you generate your seed elsewhere (like on a trezor) and import it to the coldcard you should be fine. Would I? Probably not + +comment: p1mziox +parent: t1_p1k0lef +author: NuggedClarp +created_utc: 1785846672 +edited: false +body: +So, does that mean storing Bitcoin in a cold wallet ultimately depends on a third-party company staying in business forever?Extracted text as captured
post: 1veuene author: jb7734 created_utc: 1785801899 title: Do I throw away my Coldcard? body: Hey guys! I’m a long time bitcoin holder. I don’t have a huge stack but it’s a decent chunk and the entirety has been in storage in my Coldcard Q pretty much since that device launched. I migrated over to it from a Mark 3 and made a new wallet on the Q using 24 words generated by the device with no dice rolls or passphrase. When I first saw the reports of what was happening on Saturday night my stomach sank. I checked my wallet app with my heart racing and saw that my coins were untouched right where I left them. I feel extremely lucky that my btc wasn’t stolen, and I immediately moved the coin to my Coinbase account temporarily. My next steps were wiping the old seed, upgrading the firmware on the Coldcard and generating a new seed. I also added about 80 dice rolls this time obviously not trusting that Coldcard got it right this time. I moved my BTC back to this new cold wallet but now I’m feeling uncertain if I should dump this device completely and get something else. Am I safe with the dice rolls added entropy? I’m curious what other Coldcard users are doing now. TLDR: my Coldcard didn’t get hacked but I’m still using it, now with added dice rolls. Am I safe or should I get something new? comment: p1jxrl2 parent: t3_1veuene author: QuailRadiant7344 created_utc: 1785802111 edited: false body: You have balls of steel bro. comment: p1jy3zi parent: t3_1veuene author: buddhac2is created_utc: 1785802222 edited: false body: Yes comment: p1jy4si parent: t3_1veuene author: Doritos707 created_utc: 1785802229 edited: false body: Real answer. If you rolled more than 50 dice rolls, and are using 24 words seeds, you are safe. comment: p1jy6q4 parent: t3_1veuene author: Constant-Number4020 created_utc: 1785802246 edited: false body: I'm sticking with my Q.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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One new comment was posted: nachtraum ('That's why I only have minimal funds at banks').
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edited: false body: Do you feel the tellers at your bank are highly skilled money managers? + +comment: p1mru4g +parent: t1_p1mmcif +author: nachtraum +created_utc: 1785844056 +edited: false +body: +That's why I only have minimal funds at banksExtracted text as captured
post: 1veuene author: jb7734 created_utc: 1785801899 title: Do I throw away my Coldcard? body: Hey guys! I’m a long time bitcoin holder. I don’t have a huge stack but it’s a decent chunk and the entirety has been in storage in my Coldcard Q pretty much since that device launched. I migrated over to it from a Mark 3 and made a new wallet on the Q using 24 words generated by the device with no dice rolls or passphrase. When I first saw the reports of what was happening on Saturday night my stomach sank. I checked my wallet app with my heart racing and saw that my coins were untouched right where I left them. I feel extremely lucky that my btc wasn’t stolen, and I immediately moved the coin to my Coinbase account temporarily. My next steps were wiping the old seed, upgrading the firmware on the Coldcard and generating a new seed. I also added about 80 dice rolls this time obviously not trusting that Coldcard got it right this time. I moved my BTC back to this new cold wallet but now I’m feeling uncertain if I should dump this device completely and get something else. Am I safe with the dice rolls added entropy? I’m curious what other Coldcard users are doing now. TLDR: my Coldcard didn’t get hacked but I’m still using it, now with added dice rolls. Am I safe or should I get something new? comment: p1jxrl2 parent: t3_1veuene author: QuailRadiant7344 created_utc: 1785802111 edited: false body: You have balls of steel bro. comment: p1jy3zi parent: t3_1veuene author: buddhac2is created_utc: 1785802222 edited: false body: Yes comment: p1jy4si parent: t3_1veuene author: Doritos707 created_utc: 1785802229 edited: false body: Real answer. If you rolled more than 50 dice rolls, and are using 24 words seeds, you are safe. comment: p1jy6q4 parent: t3_1veuene author: Constant-Number4020 created_utc: 1785802246 edited: false body: I'm sticking with my Q.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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Two new comments were posted by FavorableMadness: advising to keep the patched device as it remains as good as any other, and asking whether bank tellers are highly skilled money managers.
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edited: false body: You can generate the codes yourself using dice, regardless of the device you will eventually use, OMG. Otherwise, rolling dice and not relying on HW generators (Trezor and others have more than one) is stupidity. Literally no one ever cared about this before. But now? Suddenly it's mandatory and necessary? LOL. + +comment: p1mlxpk +parent: t3_1veuene +author: FavorableMadness +created_utc: 1785841845 +edited: false +body: +Keep the device. It is superior in so many other ways. Patched, it is as good as any other. Acting like someone else built a better mouse trap is probably incorrect. + +comment: p1mmcif +parent: t1_p1lai0l +author: FavorableMadness +created_utc: 1785842007 +edited: false +body: +Do you feel the tellers at your bank are highly skilled money managers?Extracted text as captured
post: 1veuene author: jb7734 created_utc: 1785801899 title: Do I throw away my Coldcard? body: Hey guys! I’m a long time bitcoin holder. I don’t have a huge stack but it’s a decent chunk and the entirety has been in storage in my Coldcard Q pretty much since that device launched. I migrated over to it from a Mark 3 and made a new wallet on the Q using 24 words generated by the device with no dice rolls or passphrase. When I first saw the reports of what was happening on Saturday night my stomach sank. I checked my wallet app with my heart racing and saw that my coins were untouched right where I left them. I feel extremely lucky that my btc wasn’t stolen, and I immediately moved the coin to my Coinbase account temporarily. My next steps were wiping the old seed, upgrading the firmware on the Coldcard and generating a new seed. I also added about 80 dice rolls this time obviously not trusting that Coldcard got it right this time. I moved my BTC back to this new cold wallet but now I’m feeling uncertain if I should dump this device completely and get something else. Am I safe with the dice rolls added entropy? I’m curious what other Coldcard users are doing now. TLDR: my Coldcard didn’t get hacked but I’m still using it, now with added dice rolls. Am I safe or should I get something new? comment: p1jxrl2 parent: t3_1veuene author: QuailRadiant7344 created_utc: 1785802111 edited: false body: You have balls of steel bro. comment: p1jy3zi parent: t3_1veuene author: buddhac2is created_utc: 1785802222 edited: false body: Yes comment: p1jy4si parent: t3_1veuene author: Doritos707 created_utc: 1785802229 edited: false body: Real answer. If you rolled more than 50 dice rolls, and are using 24 words seeds, you are safe. comment: p1jy6q4 parent: t3_1veuene author: Constant-Number4020 created_utc: 1785802246 edited: false body: I'm sticking with my Q.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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post: 1veuene author: jb7734 created_utc: 1785801899 title: Do I throw away my Coldcard? body: Hey guys! I’m a long time bitcoin holder. I don’t have a huge stack but it’s a decent chunk and the entirety has been in storage in my Coldcard Q pretty much since that device launched. I migrated over to it from a Mark 3 and made a new wallet on the Q using 24 words generated by the device with no dice rolls or passphrase. When I first saw the reports of what was happening on Saturday night my stomach sank. I checked my wallet app with my heart racing and saw that my coins were untouched right where I left them. I feel extremely lucky that my btc wasn’t stolen, and I immediately moved the coin to my Coinbase account temporarily. My next steps were wiping the old seed, upgrading the firmware on the Coldcard and generating a new seed. I also added about 80 dice rolls this time obviously not trusting that Coldcard got it right this time. I moved my BTC back to this new cold wallet but now I’m feeling uncertain if I should dump this device completely and get something else. Am I safe with the dice rolls added entropy? I’m curious what other Coldcard users are doing now. TLDR: my Coldcard didn’t get hacked but I’m still using it, now with added dice rolls. Am I safe or should I get something new? comment: p1jxrl2 parent: t3_1veuene author: QuailRadiant7344 created_utc: 1785802111 edited: false body: You have balls of steel bro. comment: p1jy3zi parent: t3_1veuene author: buddhac2is created_utc: 1785802222 edited: false body: Yes comment: p1jy4si parent: t3_1veuene author: Doritos707 created_utc: 1785802229 edited: false body: Real answer. If you rolled more than 50 dice rolls, and are using 24 words seeds, you are safe. comment: p1jy6q4 parent: t3_1veuene author: Constant-Number4020 created_utc: 1785802246 edited: false body: I'm sticking with my Q.Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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