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r/Bitcoin: owner of a sealed, never-used COLDCARD asking when it becomes a collectible

reddit-unused-coldcard-collectible

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1vecxwh/my_unused_coldcard/

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 Well the good news is that with the latest firmware it’s using a valid entropy source for the seed.
 
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     Well the good news is that with the latest firmware it’s using a valid entropy source for the seed.
     
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    -Rng, not encryption
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     Ah yes, I also disassemble my car and inspect every single nut and bolt for defects before driving it. Makes sense.
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    +It says it right there on the package.
    
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    Bought one of these back in the day, package still sealed. Happily I never used it, and stayed with my ledger instead. When do these start to be collectibles?
    
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    Which model? I will be interested into buying but not for the original price. 
    
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    Users never verified if the encryption was any good, thats what the disclaimer was for..
    
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    Time to throw it in the garbage. 
    
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    Or keep it as a souvenir...
    
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     Use dice rolls and verify online that seeds match. This tells you if the ColdCard is generating the right mathematical results. Once confirmed, it’s safe to use your dice rolls to create your actual seed. 
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    +I think you might need to hurry up before the CEO/CTO goes to prison lmao
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    +Ah yes, I also disassemble my car and inspect every single nut and bolt for defects before driving it. Makes sense.
    
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    Bought one of these back in the day, package still sealed. Happily I never used it, and stayed with my ledger instead. When do these start to be collectibles?
    
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    Which model? I will be interested into buying but not for the original price. 
    
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    Users never verified if the encryption was any good, thats what the disclaimer was for..
    
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    Time to throw it in the garbage. 
    
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    Or keep it as a souvenir...
    
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     Well, the whole point is to just trust the code of the firmware, not the company. The code is all that matters when it comes to hardware wallets. If the firmware is good, I dont care how the company is behaving. 
     
     Problem is, very few people can inspect the patch by themselves and check the fix before upgrading the coldcard.
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    +Sell it too me
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    +Use dice rolls and verify online that seeds match. This tells you if the ColdCard is generating the right mathematical results. Once confirmed, it’s safe to use your dice rolls to create your actual seed. 
    
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    Bought one of these back in the day, package still sealed. Happily I never used it, and stayed with my ledger instead. When do these start to be collectibles?
    
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    Which model? I will be interested into buying but not for the original price. 
    
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    Users never verified if the encryption was any good, thats what the disclaimer was for..
    
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    Time to throw it in the garbage. 
    
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    Or keep it as a souvenir...
    
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     when I was doing research on cold wallets Mk3 cold card caught my attention because I saw it on a Btc magazine but I went with Trezor because the mk3 cold card just sounded complex for a beginner
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    +Jsut open it, upgrade to the latest firmware, dice roll your new seed if you want and you'll be fine. 
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    +Well, the whole point is to just trust the code of the firmware, not the company. The code is all that matters when it comes to hardware wallets. If the firmware is good, I dont care how the company is behaving. 
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    +Problem is, very few people can inspect the patch by themselves and check the fix before upgrading the coldcard.
    
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    Bought one of these back in the day, package still sealed. Happily I never used it, and stayed with my ledger instead. When do these start to be collectibles?
    
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    Which model? I will be interested into buying but not for the original price. 
    
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    Users never verified if the encryption was any good, thats what the disclaimer was for..
    
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    Time to throw it in the garbage. 
    
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    Or keep it as a souvenir...
    
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    A comment saying its author would stop recommending and buying COLDCARD products, while retaining an existing device and planning multisignature storage, disappeared.

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     The inverse of this is they say to not trust, verify. What’s it say about the end user who didn’t over the years. If it’s lazy to not catch it it’s even lazier to not have listened to the people you trusted up until a few days ago. 
     
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    -I agree. I won't recommend CC again. I won't buy from Coinkite again. I'll keep using my existing CC since I trust my high entropy PP and 100+ dice rolls. I will however move to multi-sig ASAP.
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    Bought one of these back in the day, package still sealed. Happily I never used it, and stayed with my ledger instead. When do these start to be collectibles?
    
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    Which model? I will be interested into buying but not for the original price. 
    
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    Users never verified if the encryption was any good, thats what the disclaimer was for..
    
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    Time to throw it in the garbage. 
    
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    Or keep it as a souvenir...
    
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     same as me, never heard, went to website, really liked the style and models
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    +when I was doing research on cold wallets Mk3 cold card caught my attention because I saw it on a Btc magazine but I went with Trezor because the mk3 cold card just sounded complex for a beginner
    
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    Bought one of these back in the day, package still sealed. Happily I never used it, and stayed with my ledger instead. When do these start to be collectibles?
    
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    Which model? I will be interested into buying but not for the original price. 
    
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    Users never verified if the encryption was any good, thats what the disclaimer was for..
    
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    Time to throw it in the garbage. 
    
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    Or keep it as a souvenir...
    
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    One new comment was posted: CapivaraMan, who had never heard of COLDCARD, visited the website and liked the style and models.

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     The hint was in their slogan
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    +same as me, never heard, went to website, really liked the style and models
    
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    Bought one of these back in the day, package still sealed. Happily I never used it, and stayed with my ledger instead. When do these start to be collectibles?
    
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    Which model? I will be interested into buying but not for the original price. 
    
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    Users never verified if the encryption was any good, thats what the disclaimer was for..
    
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    Time to throw it in the garbage. 
    
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    Or keep it as a souvenir...
    
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    One new comment was posted: ibraw ('The hint was in their slogan').

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     I am with you. I don’t understand why this event makes the device less good than any other. Yes they had an issue, they may have more. It’s naive to think that all the other devices are perfect. Has anyone looked to see how often a Microsoft Windows security update has to be released?! Do we think there are no vulnerabilities in banking software?!
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    Bought one of these back in the day, package still sealed. Happily I never used it, and stayed with my ledger instead. When do these start to be collectibles?
    
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    Which model? I will be interested into buying but not for the original price. 
    
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    Users never verified if the encryption was any good, thats what the disclaimer was for..
    
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    Time to throw it in the garbage. 
    
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    Or keep it as a souvenir...
    
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    One new comment was posted: FavorableMadness, arguing the incident does not make the device worse than any other since all software ships security fixes and vulnerabilities.

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     Talk about dodging bullets lol
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    +I am with you. I don’t understand why this event makes the device less good than any other. Yes they had an issue, they may have more. It’s naive to think that all the other devices are perfect. Has anyone looked to see how often a Microsoft Windows security update has to be released?! Do we think there are no vulnerabilities in banking software?!
    
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    title: My unused coldcard
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    Bought one of these back in the day, package still sealed. Happily I never used it, and stayed with my ledger instead. When do these start to be collectibles?
    
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    Which model? I will be interested into buying but not for the original price. 
    
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    Users never verified if the encryption was any good, thats what the disclaimer was for..
    
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    Time to throw it in the garbage. 
    
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    Or keep it as a souvenir...
    
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    One new top-level comment was posted: Aeschbacher15 p1mdt3h ('Talk about dodging bullets lol').

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     Lol you literally followed the instructions on the bag
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    Bought one of these back in the day, package still sealed. Happily I never used it, and stayed with my ledger instead. When do these start to be collectibles?
    
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    Which model? I will be interested into buying but not for the original price. 
    
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    Users never verified if the encryption was any good, thats what the disclaimer was for..
    
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    Time to throw it in the garbage. 
    
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    Or keep it as a souvenir...
    
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    Bought one of these back in the day, package still sealed. Happily I never used it, and stayed with my ledger instead. When do these start to be collectibles?
    
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    Which model? I will be interested into buying but not for the original price. 
    
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    Users never verified if the encryption was any good, thats what the disclaimer was for..
    
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    Time to throw it in the garbage. 
    
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    Or keep it as a souvenir...
    
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