r/Bitcoin: where to store bitcoin after the COLDCARD incident
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1veyt5w/so_where_do_we_store_bitcoin_now/
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A new comment warned that Michael Saylor could develop dementia and other custodians could die.
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Different situations, same people.
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A new comment warned that Michael Saylor could develop dementia and other custodians could die.
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edited: false body: Different situations, same people. + +comment: p2jtfdh +parent: t1_p1lxp71 +author: fvm7274 +created_utc: 1786231396 +edited: false +body: +Saylor can get dementia and the other guy could die.Extracted text as captured
post: 1veyt5w author: [deleted] created_utc: 1785813772 title: So where do we store bitcoin now? body: [deleted] comment: p1kx4sx parent: t3_1veyt5w author: MycoFail created_utc: 1785814054 edited: false body: Sell it and store it an a traditional asset... comment: p1kx5n9 parent: t3_1veyt5w author: cchackal created_utc: 1785814062 edited: false body: you can get exposure via IBIT/MSTR or maybe use coinbase? comment: p1kxc1w parent: t3_1veyt5w author: __Ken_Adams__ created_utc: 1785814129 edited: false body: Any wallet you want, just use a strong passphrase. comment: p1kxt4q parent: t1_p1kx4sx author: RoundChampionship840 created_utc: 1785814311 edited: false body: Gold or silver? comment: p1kxwsvExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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Two comments by user 1-gill (about losing 0.22 BTC and stamping seed words in steel) were deleted from the thread.
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body: Completely different situation. He’s talking about mandatory reporting the funds have to make that anyone can check on the public blockchain. No similarity to people getting loans they can’t pay back. -comment: p1qx113 -parent: t1_p1l170j -author: 1-gill -created_utc: 1785884395 -edited: false -body: -Listen to me bro. I’m am not a bot. Ok this is EXACTLY how I lost .22 btc. Please write it down or stamp it in steel. That what I’ve learned ….the hard way. - -comment: p1qx9ht -parent: t3_1veyt5w -author: 1-gill -created_utc: 1785884468 -edited: false -body: -Stamped steel. Guess what….It’s still there. - comment: p1re4au parent: t1_p1qop37 author: Candid-King-8861Extracted text as captured
post: 1veyt5w author: [deleted] created_utc: 1785813772 title: So where do we store bitcoin now? body: [deleted] comment: p1kx4sx parent: t3_1veyt5w author: MycoFail created_utc: 1785814054 edited: false body: Sell it and store it an a traditional asset... comment: p1kx5n9 parent: t3_1veyt5w author: cchackal created_utc: 1785814062 edited: false body: you can get exposure via IBIT/MSTR or maybe use coinbase? comment: p1kxc1w parent: t3_1veyt5w author: __Ken_Adams__ created_utc: 1785814129 edited: false body: Any wallet you want, just use a strong passphrase. comment: p1kxt4q parent: t1_p1kx4sx author: RoundChampionship840 created_utc: 1785814311 edited: false body: Gold or silver? comment: p1kxwsvExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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A previously captured comment ("On the blockchain. Same as usual.") was deleted from the thread.
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body: Seedsigner or krux. -comment: p1lq0p4 -parent: t3_1veyt5w -author: IllllIIlIllIllllIlll -created_utc: 1785826696 -edited: false -body: -On the blockchain. Same as usual. - comment: p1lr86l parent: t3_1veyt5w author: Patient_Craft2195Extracted text as captured
post: 1veyt5w author: [deleted] created_utc: 1785813772 title: So where do we store bitcoin now? body: [deleted] comment: p1kx4sx parent: t3_1veyt5w author: MycoFail created_utc: 1785814054 edited: false body: Sell it and store it an a traditional asset... comment: p1kx5n9 parent: t3_1veyt5w author: cchackal created_utc: 1785814062 edited: false body: you can get exposure via IBIT/MSTR or maybe use coinbase? comment: p1kxc1w parent: t3_1veyt5w author: __Ken_Adams__ created_utc: 1785814129 edited: false body: Any wallet you want, just use a strong passphrase. comment: p1kxt4q parent: t1_p1kx4sx author: RoundChampionship840 created_utc: 1785814311 edited: false body: Gold or silver? comment: p1kxwsvExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The original post was deleted, replacing the author name and question with Reddit’s deleted markers.
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post: 1veyt5w -author: Interesting-Lime3031 +author: [deleted] created_utc: 1785813772 title: So where do we store bitcoin now? body: -After the coldcard situation I’m left uncertain where to store bitcoin +[deleted] comment: p1kx4sx parent: t3_1veyt5wExtracted text as captured
post: 1veyt5w author: [deleted] created_utc: 1785813772 title: So where do we store bitcoin now? body: [deleted] comment: p1kx4sx parent: t3_1veyt5w author: MycoFail created_utc: 1785814054 edited: false body: Sell it and store it an a traditional asset... comment: p1kx5n9 parent: t3_1veyt5w author: cchackal created_utc: 1785814062 edited: false body: you can get exposure via IBIT/MSTR or maybe use coinbase? comment: p1kxc1w parent: t3_1veyt5w author: __Ken_Adams__ created_utc: 1785814129 edited: false body: Any wallet you want, just use a strong passphrase. comment: p1kxt4q parent: t1_p1kx4sx author: RoundChampionship840 created_utc: 1785814311 edited: false body: Gold or silver? comment: p1kxwsvExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained a reply saying the two situations involve the same people.
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edited: false body: Stamped steel. Guess what….It’s still there. + +comment: p1re4au +parent: t1_p1qop37 +author: Candid-King-8861 +created_utc: 1785889804 +edited: false +body: +Different situations, same people.Extracted text as captured
post: 1veyt5w author: Interesting-Lime3031 created_utc: 1785813772 title: So where do we store bitcoin now? body: After the coldcard situation I’m left uncertain where to store bitcoin comment: p1kx4sx parent: t3_1veyt5w author: MycoFail created_utc: 1785814054 edited: false body: Sell it and store it an a traditional asset... comment: p1kx5n9 parent: t3_1veyt5w author: cchackal created_utc: 1785814062 edited: false body: you can get exposure via IBIT/MSTR or maybe use coinbase? comment: p1kxc1w parent: t3_1veyt5w author: __Ken_Adams__ created_utc: 1785814129 edited: false body: Any wallet you want, just use a strong passphrase. comment: p1kxt4q parent: t1_p1kx4sx author: RoundChampionship840 created_utc: 1785814311 edited: false body: Gold or silver? comment: p1kxwsvExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained comments describing a claimed 0.22 BTC loss and steel seed backups.
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edited: false body: Completely different situation. He’s talking about mandatory reporting the funds have to make that anyone can check on the public blockchain. No similarity to people getting loans they can’t pay back. + +comment: p1qx113 +parent: t1_p1l170j +author: 1-gill +created_utc: 1785884395 +edited: false +body: +Listen to me bro. I’m am not a bot. Ok this is EXACTLY how I lost .22 btc. Please write it down or stamp it in steel. That what I’ve learned ….the hard way. + +comment: p1qx9ht +parent: t3_1veyt5w +author: 1-gill +created_utc: 1785884468 +edited: false +body: +Stamped steel. Guess what….It’s still there.Extracted text as captured
post: 1veyt5w author: Interesting-Lime3031 created_utc: 1785813772 title: So where do we store bitcoin now? body: After the coldcard situation I’m left uncertain where to store bitcoin comment: p1kx4sx parent: t3_1veyt5w author: MycoFail created_utc: 1785814054 edited: false body: Sell it and store it an a traditional asset... comment: p1kx5n9 parent: t3_1veyt5w author: cchackal created_utc: 1785814062 edited: false body: you can get exposure via IBIT/MSTR or maybe use coinbase? comment: p1kxc1w parent: t3_1veyt5w author: __Ken_Adams__ created_utc: 1785814129 edited: false body: Any wallet you want, just use a strong passphrase. comment: p1kxt4q parent: t1_p1kx4sx author: RoundChampionship840 created_utc: 1785814311 edited: false body: Gold or silver? comment: p1kxwsvExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained a comment distinguishing the incident from mandatory public blockchain reporting.
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I missing? I store mostly on cake wallet on my phone. It’s a 12 word phrase. How safe is that? If it’s not safe, what can I do to protect myself? Willing to send a tip for help. This makes me thank my lucky stars I converted most to usdt back in nov. + +comment: p1qop37 +parent: t1_p1q5qjv +author: RulePersonal +created_utc: 1785881900 +edited: false +body: +Completely different situation. He’s talking about mandatory reporting the funds have to make that anyone can check on the public blockchain. No similarity to people getting loans they can’t pay back.Extracted text as captured
post: 1veyt5w author: Interesting-Lime3031 created_utc: 1785813772 title: So where do we store bitcoin now? body: After the coldcard situation I’m left uncertain where to store bitcoin comment: p1kx4sx parent: t3_1veyt5w author: MycoFail created_utc: 1785814054 edited: false body: Sell it and store it an a traditional asset... comment: p1kx5n9 parent: t3_1veyt5w author: cchackal created_utc: 1785814062 edited: false body: you can get exposure via IBIT/MSTR or maybe use coinbase? comment: p1kxc1w parent: t3_1veyt5w author: __Ken_Adams__ created_utc: 1785814129 edited: false body: Any wallet you want, just use a strong passphrase. comment: p1kxt4q parent: t1_p1kx4sx author: RoundChampionship840 created_utc: 1785814311 edited: false body: Gold or silver? comment: p1kxwsvExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained 2 new comments, including a question about whether other wallet seed generation is affected.
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edited: false body: Create a seed with an open source wallet on an air gapped VM. + +comment: p1qifer +parent: t1_p1q4juw +author: Fil3toFishy69 +created_utc: 1785880111 +edited: false +body: +I bet my boy. PLOW IT BABY + +comment: p1qnzoj +parent: t3_1veyt5w +author: RulePersonal +created_utc: 1785881695 +edited: false +body: +Someone please fill me in as a casual. I was under the impression that this issue was isolated to coldcard users. Someone in their company made a big whoopie and cost some billions. Is the issue actually with any wallet with a generated seed phrase or what am +I missing? I store mostly on cake wallet on my phone. It’s a 12 word phrase. How safe is that? + +If it’s not safe, what can I do to protect myself? Willing to send a tip for help. This makes me thank my lucky stars I converted most to usdt back in nov.Extracted text as captured
post: 1veyt5w author: Interesting-Lime3031 created_utc: 1785813772 title: So where do we store bitcoin now? body: After the coldcard situation I’m left uncertain where to store bitcoin comment: p1kx4sx parent: t3_1veyt5w author: MycoFail created_utc: 1785814054 edited: false body: Sell it and store it an a traditional asset... comment: p1kx5n9 parent: t3_1veyt5w author: cchackal created_utc: 1785814062 edited: false body: you can get exposure via IBIT/MSTR or maybe use coinbase? comment: p1kxc1w parent: t3_1veyt5w author: __Ken_Adams__ created_utc: 1785814129 edited: false body: Any wallet you want, just use a strong passphrase. comment: p1kxt4q parent: t1_p1kx4sx author: RoundChampionship840 created_utc: 1785814311 edited: false body: Gold or silver? comment: p1kxwsvExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained 1 new comment recommending an air-gapped open-source wallet.
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edited: false body: They were also supposed to check the legitimacy of mortgages see how that worked out. + +comment: p1qi58j +parent: t1_p1n831n +author: Unable_Beat_3194 +created_utc: 1785880032 +edited: false +body: +Create a seed with an open source wallet on an air gapped VM.Extracted text as captured
post: 1veyt5w author: Interesting-Lime3031 created_utc: 1785813772 title: So where do we store bitcoin now? body: After the coldcard situation I’m left uncertain where to store bitcoin comment: p1kx4sx parent: t3_1veyt5w author: MycoFail created_utc: 1785814054 edited: false body: Sell it and store it an a traditional asset... comment: p1kx5n9 parent: t3_1veyt5w author: cchackal created_utc: 1785814062 edited: false body: you can get exposure via IBIT/MSTR or maybe use coinbase? comment: p1kxc1w parent: t3_1veyt5w author: __Ken_Adams__ created_utc: 1785814129 edited: false body: Any wallet you want, just use a strong passphrase. comment: p1kxt4q parent: t1_p1kx4sx author: RoundChampionship840 created_utc: 1785814311 edited: false body: Gold or silver? comment: p1kxwsvExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained 1 new comment.
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edited: false body: Better than ur mother treated me last night + +comment: p1q5qjv +parent: t1_p1p3u7q +author: Candid-King-8861 +created_utc: 1785876651 +edited: false +body: +They were also supposed to check the legitimacy of mortgages see how that worked out.Extracted text as captured
post: 1veyt5w author: Interesting-Lime3031 created_utc: 1785813772 title: So where do we store bitcoin now? body: After the coldcard situation I’m left uncertain where to store bitcoin comment: p1kx4sx parent: t3_1veyt5w author: MycoFail created_utc: 1785814054 edited: false body: Sell it and store it an a traditional asset... comment: p1kx5n9 parent: t3_1veyt5w author: cchackal created_utc: 1785814062 edited: false body: you can get exposure via IBIT/MSTR or maybe use coinbase? comment: p1kxc1w parent: t3_1veyt5w author: __Ken_Adams__ created_utc: 1785814129 edited: false body: Any wallet you want, just use a strong passphrase. comment: p1kxt4q parent: t1_p1kx4sx author: RoundChampionship840 created_utc: 1785814311 edited: false body: Gold or silver? comment: p1kxwsvExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained 2 new comments.
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edited: false body: Cold storage. But educate yourself to do the process yourself. + +comment: p1pyfxy +parent: t1_p1p3u7q +author: uhohthrowawayyyyyy +created_utc: 1785874714 +edited: false +body: +People like this are conspiracy types, they’re into bitcoin for a different reason than yourself hahah + +comment: p1q4juw +parent: t1_p1o8akz +author: Interesting-Lime3031 +created_utc: 1785876337 +edited: false +body: +Better than ur mother treated me last nightExtracted text as captured
post: 1veyt5w author: Interesting-Lime3031 created_utc: 1785813772 title: So where do we store bitcoin now? body: After the coldcard situation I’m left uncertain where to store bitcoin comment: p1kx4sx parent: t3_1veyt5w author: MycoFail created_utc: 1785814054 edited: false body: Sell it and store it an a traditional asset... comment: p1kx5n9 parent: t3_1veyt5w author: cchackal created_utc: 1785814062 edited: false body: you can get exposure via IBIT/MSTR or maybe use coinbase? comment: p1kxc1w parent: t3_1veyt5w author: __Ken_Adams__ created_utc: 1785814129 edited: false body: Any wallet you want, just use a strong passphrase. comment: p1kxt4q parent: t1_p1kx4sx author: RoundChampionship840 created_utc: 1785814311 edited: false body: Gold or silver? comment: p1kxwsvExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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The Reddit thread gained 2 new comments.
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edited: false body: Ledger + +comment: p1px4jn +parent: t1_p1oykr1 +author: No-Reading-4384 +created_utc: 1785874367 +edited: false +body: +Yep was on exodus for 10 years because it was “secure” + +comment: p1pxnse +parent: t3_1veyt5w +author: Charmed-paper345 +created_utc: 1785874509 +edited: false +body: +Cold storage. But educate yourself to do the process yourself.Extracted text as captured
post: 1veyt5w author: Interesting-Lime3031 created_utc: 1785813772 title: So where do we store bitcoin now? body: After the coldcard situation I’m left uncertain where to store bitcoin comment: p1kx4sx parent: t3_1veyt5w author: MycoFail created_utc: 1785814054 edited: false body: Sell it and store it an a traditional asset... comment: p1kx5n9 parent: t3_1veyt5w author: cchackal created_utc: 1785814062 edited: false body: you can get exposure via IBIT/MSTR or maybe use coinbase? comment: p1kxc1w parent: t3_1veyt5w author: __Ken_Adams__ created_utc: 1785814129 edited: false body: Any wallet you want, just use a strong passphrase. comment: p1kxt4q parent: t1_p1kx4sx author: RoundChampionship840 created_utc: 1785814311 edited: false body: Gold or silver? comment: p1kxwsvExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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comment: p1l40uo parent: t1_p1l0ijo -author: Some-btc-name +author: [deleted] created_utc: 1785816739 edited: false body: -Not sure why this is that complicated for ppl. Like BIP-39 has 2048 words. Choose one. Then do that another 23x. Now you have your seed. Cold card can still be used to sign but don't have it generate a seed. Also. If you want to quantum proof go multisig. +[deleted] comment: p1l5x7x parent: t3_1veyt5w Spot Bitcoin ETFs are legally required to hold the Bitcoin that backs the shares, and those holdings are audited and disclosed… You’re not trusting an individual but rules/regulations that have been around a long time and current enforcement. + +comment: p1p60e6 +parent: t3_1veyt5w +author: nick_c8_vegas +created_utc: 1785867387 +edited: false +body: +LedgerExtracted text as captured
post: 1veyt5w author: Interesting-Lime3031 created_utc: 1785813772 title: So where do we store bitcoin now? body: After the coldcard situation I’m left uncertain where to store bitcoin comment: p1kx4sx parent: t3_1veyt5w author: MycoFail created_utc: 1785814054 edited: false body: Sell it and store it an a traditional asset... comment: p1kx5n9 parent: t3_1veyt5w author: cchackal created_utc: 1785814062 edited: false body: you can get exposure via IBIT/MSTR or maybe use coinbase? comment: p1kxc1w parent: t3_1veyt5w author: __Ken_Adams__ created_utc: 1785814129 edited: false body: Any wallet you want, just use a strong passphrase. comment: p1kxt4q parent: t1_p1kx4sx author: RoundChampionship840 created_utc: 1785814311 edited: false body: Gold or silver? comment: p1kxwsvExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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edited: false body: Huh? + +comment: p1p3u7q +parent: t1_p1n831n +author: Gale_Wyvern +created_utc: 1785866849 +edited: false +body: +Spot Bitcoin ETFs are legally required to hold the Bitcoin that backs the shares, and those holdings are audited and disclosed… + +You’re not trusting an individual but rules/regulations that have been around a long time and current enforcement.Extracted text as captured
post: 1veyt5w author: Interesting-Lime3031 created_utc: 1785813772 title: So where do we store bitcoin now? body: After the coldcard situation I’m left uncertain where to store bitcoin comment: p1kx4sx parent: t3_1veyt5w author: MycoFail created_utc: 1785814054 edited: false body: Sell it and store it an a traditional asset... comment: p1kx5n9 parent: t3_1veyt5w author: cchackal created_utc: 1785814062 edited: false body: you can get exposure via IBIT/MSTR or maybe use coinbase? comment: p1kxc1w parent: t3_1veyt5w author: __Ken_Adams__ created_utc: 1785814129 edited: false body: Any wallet you want, just use a strong passphrase. comment: p1kxt4q parent: t1_p1kx4sx author: RoundChampionship840 created_utc: 1785814311 edited: false body: Gold or silver? comment: p1kxwsvExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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edited: false body: Lost 160k….nowhere. + +comment: p1oykr1 +parent: t1_p1ojjbw +author: Interesting-Lime3031 +created_utc: 1785865552 +edited: false +body: +Huh?Extracted text as captured
post: 1veyt5w author: Interesting-Lime3031 created_utc: 1785813772 title: So where do we store bitcoin now? body: After the coldcard situation I’m left uncertain where to store bitcoin comment: p1kx4sx parent: t3_1veyt5w author: MycoFail created_utc: 1785814054 edited: false body: Sell it and store it an a traditional asset... comment: p1kx5n9 parent: t3_1veyt5w author: cchackal created_utc: 1785814062 edited: false body: you can get exposure via IBIT/MSTR or maybe use coinbase? comment: p1kxc1w parent: t3_1veyt5w author: __Ken_Adams__ created_utc: 1785814129 edited: false body: Any wallet you want, just use a strong passphrase. comment: p1kxt4q parent: t1_p1kx4sx author: RoundChampionship840 created_utc: 1785814311 edited: false body: Gold or silver? comment: p1kxwsvExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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What happened with Coldcard was the result of incredibly low entropy during the seed generation process, something the rest of manufacturers ([us included](https://github.com/BitBoxSwiss/bitbox02-firmware/blob/c838d7fd80190a02531ba30e4a904240e4485e1f/src/rust/bitbox02-rust/src/keystore.rs#L577)) take very seriously. If you can't trust an RNG anymore you can always [roll your own seed](https://blog.bitbox.swiss/en/roll-the-dice-generate-your-own-seed/). + +comment: p1ogga3 +parent: t3_1veyt5w +author: BearlyBearishBear +created_utc: 1785861063 +edited: false +body: +Cash out and store in a real bank + +comment: p1ojjbw +parent: t3_1veyt5w +author: No-Reading-4384 +created_utc: 1785861836 +edited: false +body: +Lost 160k….nowhere.Extracted text as captured
post: 1veyt5w author: Interesting-Lime3031 created_utc: 1785813772 title: So where do we store bitcoin now? body: After the coldcard situation I’m left uncertain where to store bitcoin comment: p1kx4sx parent: t3_1veyt5w author: MycoFail created_utc: 1785814054 edited: false body: Sell it and store it an a traditional asset... comment: p1kx5n9 parent: t3_1veyt5w author: cchackal created_utc: 1785814062 edited: false body: you can get exposure via IBIT/MSTR or maybe use coinbase? comment: p1kxc1w parent: t3_1veyt5w author: __Ken_Adams__ created_utc: 1785814129 edited: false body: Any wallet you want, just use a strong passphrase. comment: p1kxt4q parent: t1_p1kx4sx author: RoundChampionship840 created_utc: 1785814311 edited: false body: Gold or silver? comment: p1kxwsvExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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3 new Reddit comments were posted, including a BitBox representative describing its seed entropy and recommending user dice rolls.
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edited: false body: Have passphrase on your trezor for safety + +comment: p1o7n6m +parent: t3_1veyt5w +author: HODL_Dawg +created_utc: 1785858840 +edited: false +body: +I keep mine in an old coffee can buried under the back porch. + +comment: p1o8akz +parent: t1_p1n88vf +author: Fil3toFishy69 +created_utc: 1785859005 +edited: false +body: +How is your Micro brain treating you today? + +comment: p1oa4i5 +parent: t3_1veyt5w +author: pako-bitbox +created_utc: 1785859470 +edited: false +body: +You can still do self-custody, in fact you should. + +What happened with Coldcard was the result of incredibly low entropy during the seed generation process, something the rest of manufacturers ([us included](https://github.com/BitBoxSwiss/bitbox02-firmware/blob/c838d7fd80190a02531ba30e4a904240e4485e1f/src/rust/bitbox02-rust/src/keystore.rs#L577)) take very seriously. + +If you can't trust an RNG anymore you can always [roll your own seed](https://blog.bitbox.swiss/en/roll-the-dice-generate-your-own-seed/).Extracted text as captured
post: 1veyt5w author: Interesting-Lime3031 created_utc: 1785813772 title: So where do we store bitcoin now? body: After the coldcard situation I’m left uncertain where to store bitcoin comment: p1kx4sx parent: t3_1veyt5w author: MycoFail created_utc: 1785814054 edited: false body: Sell it and store it an a traditional asset... comment: p1kx5n9 parent: t3_1veyt5w author: cchackal created_utc: 1785814062 edited: false body: you can get exposure via IBIT/MSTR or maybe use coinbase? comment: p1kxc1w parent: t3_1veyt5w author: __Ken_Adams__ created_utc: 1785814129 edited: false body: Any wallet you want, just use a strong passphrase. comment: p1kxt4q parent: t1_p1kx4sx author: RoundChampionship840 created_utc: 1785814311 edited: false body: Gold or silver? comment: p1kxwsvExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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1 new Reddit comment was posted, including swaggercatr.
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A guy just made a list of all hardware wallets. https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1vehzv8/i_compared_every_major_bitcoin_hardware_wallet/ + +comment: p1ngddn +parent: t1_p1mpobj +author: swaggercatr +created_utc: 1785851660 +edited: false +body: +Have passphrase on your trezor for safetyExtracted text as captured
post: 1veyt5w author: Interesting-Lime3031 created_utc: 1785813772 title: So where do we store bitcoin now? body: After the coldcard situation I’m left uncertain where to store bitcoin comment: p1kx4sx parent: t3_1veyt5w author: MycoFail created_utc: 1785814054 edited: false body: Sell it and store it an a traditional asset... comment: p1kx5n9 parent: t3_1veyt5w author: cchackal created_utc: 1785814062 edited: false body: you can get exposure via IBIT/MSTR or maybe use coinbase? comment: p1kxc1w parent: t3_1veyt5w author: __Ken_Adams__ created_utc: 1785814129 edited: false body: Any wallet you want, just use a strong passphrase. comment: p1kxt4q parent: t1_p1kx4sx author: RoundChampionship840 created_utc: 1785814311 edited: false body: Gold or silver? comment: p1kxwsvExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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11 new Reddit comments were posted, including DK4E2XFpbETJrj,AAAdamKK,Btcyoda.
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edited: false body: Cold storage + +comment: p1mpobj +parent: t3_1veyt5w +author: DK4E2XFpbETJrj +created_utc: 1785843278 +edited: false +body: +I'm seriously questioning my Trezor One. I bought it and forgot about it for so many years. I mean, it's been great. But what if, right? + +comment: p1msoi8 +parent: t1_p1l87yx +author: AAAdamKK +created_utc: 1785844360 +edited: false +body: +I'll hold it for you and send you 2 BTC back for every 1 BTC you send to me! + +comment: p1mu15i +parent: t3_1veyt5w +author: Btcyoda +created_utc: 1785844836 +edited: false +body: +On the blockchain. + +comment: p1muvp3 +parent: t3_1veyt5w +author: InevitableSalty4366 +created_utc: 1785845133 +edited: false +body: +Create your own paper wallet. Use coinflips, use dicerolls, count the number of different coloured cars. Be your own rng. + + +https://www.bitaddress.org/bitaddress.org-v3.3.0-SHA256-dec17c07685e1870960903d8f58090475b25af946fe95a734f88408cef4aa194.html + +comment: p1mzr2u +parent: t3_1veyt5w +author: tnethacker +created_utc: 1785846744 +edited: false +body: +I've heard nice things about mtgox + +comment: p1mzye5 +parent: t1_p1l170j +author: Delicious_Mousse6210 +created_utc: 1785846812 +edited: false +body: +low iq or bait? + +comment: p1n4yqq +parent: t1_p1l40uo +author: iloverunning11 +created_utc: 1785848374 +edited: false +body: +That is dumb af + +comment: p1n7kcb +parent: t3_1veyt5w +author: Inevitable-Pay-7159 +created_utc: 1785849157 +edited: false +body: +Use Qastle wallet available on App Store. This is ultimate full proof unhackable wallet with quantum pure entropy + +comment: p1n831n +parent: t1_p1lbx2m +author: Interesting-Lime3031 +created_utc: 1785849307 +edited: false +body: +I don’t really believe in etf version of bitcoin, I believe in owning bitcoin not trusting some hedge fund manager to own it bitcoin + +comment: p1n88vf +parent: t1_p1l2xbu +author: Interesting-Lime3031 +created_utc: 1785849354 +edited: false +body: +Ur a Moron. I don’t even use cold card lol + +comment: p1nbdwg +parent: t3_1veyt5w +author: Gh0mri +created_utc: 1785850260 +edited: false +body: +A guy just made a list of all hardware wallets. + +https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1vehzv8/i_compared_every_major_bitcoin_hardware_wallet/Extracted text as captured
post: 1veyt5w author: Interesting-Lime3031 created_utc: 1785813772 title: So where do we store bitcoin now? body: After the coldcard situation I’m left uncertain where to store bitcoin comment: p1kx4sx parent: t3_1veyt5w author: MycoFail created_utc: 1785814054 edited: false body: Sell it and store it an a traditional asset... comment: p1kx5n9 parent: t3_1veyt5w author: cchackal created_utc: 1785814062 edited: false body: you can get exposure via IBIT/MSTR or maybe use coinbase? comment: p1kxc1w parent: t3_1veyt5w author: __Ken_Adams__ created_utc: 1785814129 edited: false body: Any wallet you want, just use a strong passphrase. comment: p1kxt4q parent: t1_p1kx4sx author: RoundChampionship840 created_utc: 1785814311 edited: false body: Gold or silver? comment: p1kxwsvExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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post: 1veyt5w author: Interesting-Lime3031 created_utc: 1785813772 title: So where do we store bitcoin now? body: After the coldcard situation I’m left uncertain where to store bitcoin comment: p1kx4sx parent: t3_1veyt5w author: MycoFail created_utc: 1785814054 edited: false body: Sell it and store it an a traditional asset... comment: p1kx5n9 parent: t3_1veyt5w author: cchackal created_utc: 1785814062 edited: false body: you can get exposure via IBIT/MSTR or maybe use coinbase? comment: p1kxc1w parent: t3_1veyt5w author: __Ken_Adams__ created_utc: 1785814129 edited: false body: Any wallet you want, just use a strong passphrase. comment: p1kxt4q parent: t1_p1kx4sx author: RoundChampionship840 created_utc: 1785814311 edited: false body: Gold or silver? comment: p1kxwsvExcerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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