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Can we have a serious talk about the LARP in Bitcoin

stackernews-larp-discussion

https://stacker.news/items/1537803

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chungkingexpress's 'Can we have a serious talk about the LARP in Bitcoin', a long criticism of how Coinkite and NVK handled and framed the incident. One of the largest discussion threads on the site; the accusations are the author's and are contested. Captured through the site's public GraphQL API: the rendered pages crash the capture tab, and the API answers POST from this host. The query fixes the captured surface to the item's title, text and two levels of comments, each with author and absolute timestamp.

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              {
                "createdAt": "2026-08-02T11:23:31.643Z",
                "text": "Influencers (and NVK) should figure out a way to reimburse their followers that got rugged.\n\nBugs happens, but promoting a device (built on clearly questionable DIY stack) as if it was better that everything else, while having all the tools (ie. opensource code) but not the knowledge to verify the claim, is something else.\n\nHopefully this is the end of the bitcoin religion, and we can go back at ignoring influencers and using bitcoin as money.",
                "user": {
                  "name": "rblb"
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              {
                "createdAt": "2026-08-01T16:04:44.023Z",
                "text": "The biggest LARP happening among Bitcoin is the idea that you have \"opted out of fiat\" by simply holding Bitcoin.  Even though you use fiat every day for everything, and you talk about the fiat price of Bitcoin more than you talk about creating circular Bitcoin economies.\n\nDenominating your net worth in Bitcoin is not enough to claim you've opted out of fiat.  Stop lying to yourself.",
                "user": {
                  "name": "fiatbad"
                }
              },
              {
                "createdAt": "2026-08-01T16:38:59.200Z",
                "text": "What you were watching was a crisis. Of a novel kind too because normally this would go onto a security list, get patched, then you get the \"update and roll over now\" after a few hours and then next week we'd know what's what.\n\nThis was live. Extreme pressure. Even in the thread here on SN. I am sure some stackers didn't sleep much Thu->Fri, and on Twitter we saw people deprivating themselves of sleep beyond what is wise. Pressure to solve it. Ask the bot. Share preliminary unverified findings... on and on and on. This all went down in record speed. \n\nTo give you a comparison: 2 years ago, for a similarly complex, high priority bug, I needed 2 days to confirm, 1.5 days to patch and do a release, and luckily the ecosystem was ready to adopt quick - within a week most was fixed when wave 2 happened because someone figured it all out from reverse engineering the patch. Of course I didn't have a bot, or an army of people on twitter, or so many eyes on it. But the speed of this should give resolve. Wave 2 happened after 12 hours or so because once you are in this public setting, there is no going back and every fool has a bot now.\n\n> who doomscroll X\n\nIf you're not actively reviewing, having hardened process and spend at least 20% of your awake time on security then you better doomscroll X for every product you depend upon. Because that's the world we live in now.\n\n> trust and the respect\n\nWe all know that this is the issue. And if we are honest, we know that this is the problem for each of us. We trust and we don't friggen verify. This vuln is the proof. Yes, we have a serious issue. Virtue signal became more important than actual work. We grew fat. We are lazy mfs. I am. You are. Everyone is.\n\nRealize it now. And ffs get yourself on a diet and be lean again.",
                "user": {
                  "name": "optimism"
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              {
                "createdAt": "2026-08-01T14:52:06.572Z",
                "text": "Nvk is a piece of shit, this is the worst tragedy in Bitcoin history. As soon as the news was broke, nvk immediately started attacking his customers who were victims of his incompetence and calling them liars.",
                "user": {
                  "name": "Kruw"
                }
              },
              {
                "createdAt": "2026-08-01T16:31:49.796Z",
                "text": ">I once mentioned to someone like this, the most self-sovereign of all plebs, that I was running a Lightning node - do you know what they told me?\n\n>\"You know that is a waste of time.\"\n\nNVK hated lightning. The POS flow on the coinkite site sucked since forever! But yet I dealt with it for the unique product line”\n\nBut I agree with this post. The podcasters and the overall community in general have lead people to the slaughter house with blunder after blunder\n\n* Block Fi\n* FTX\n* Compass mining \n* Telegram Support\n* Coldcard\n* The No-KYC hustle \n* Privacy hustle \n* Hardware wallets\n* Data doxxes\n\nWe gain education but then are fed products and companies that are dogshit and crush the community and the little economy we do have in bitcoin. \n\nHopefully we go through the fire to make it better for those coming up behind us. But the LARP is real!",
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