ColdCard and Personal Responsibility
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kepford's 'ColdCard and Personal Responsibility', on DYOR and trust in confident people. Part of the responsibility-framing debate the site's dice and passphrase pages must not prejudge. Captured through the site's public GraphQL API: the rendered pages crash the capture tab, and the API answers POST from this host. The query fixes the captured surface to the item's title, text and two levels of comments, each with author and absolute timestamp.
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One new comment was posted: CruncherDefi asking how a seed can be screwed up even with dice rolls.
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} }, { + "createdAt": "2026-08-04T10:30:38.657Z", + "text": "\"You can screw it up even with dice rolls.\"\n\nHow?", + "user": { + "name": "CruncherDefi" + } + }, + { "createdAt": "2026-08-04T00:10:48.719Z", "text": "This is why I struggled when I looked for a wallet to generate entropy at the time when I started saving in Bitcoin.\n\nIn the past I used to move my mouse to generate entropy with the Gnu implementation of PGP. To me anything which uses natural phenomena is good enough. At the time when I did my research I quite liked how Cloudflare uses lava lamps to generate entropy (see https://blog.cloudflare.com/lavarand-in-production-the-nitty-gritty-technical-details/). But we can't have the same for hardware wallets.\n\nSo since I didn't know at the time (and still don't know enough about Number theory to trust myself), to me the most important source of trust is credentials. We can at who has a PhD to make good judgement. At the time when I did my research there were public figures like Adam back, Charles Guillemet, and a Swiss individual who made a wallet which recruited good people but I don't remember the name. So at the time the choice was either Blockstream Jade or Ledger if we wanted to use specific hardware. Blockstream did the entropy mistake around 2015 I think but I would still trust them just based on the credentials by assuming they learned from their mistakes.\n\nAs a public figure I saw recently Tadge Dryja, who recommended to just use a computer with Linux. In my multisig I had a hot wallet generated with Android, it is the same, based on Linux. So just using a computer is good enough, although if we learn from Luke Dash Jr's mistake, we should save it offline in the long run.\n\nIn retrospect I am very happy not to have fallen for peer pressure and did not use Coldcards on mainnet (I ended up just using it on testnet). NVK's criticism related to raspberry pi boards was extremely disrespectful for others. Someone who spends time criticizing others in general is someone who lacks self-confidence. And NVK didn't publish his credentials or works in cryptography, so I assume he has none. I may have generated seeds from a \"shitcoin inside\" wallet, and from someone who accepted money from Epstein but I slept well this weekend.\n\nSo in short, my responsibility is shifted to social trust based on educational background and what big companies use (servers with Linux). What I learned from this is the same than during the corona virus period, don't fall for peer pressure and what people recommend, only use what seems to make sense.", "user": {Extracted text as captured
{ "data": { "item": { "comments": { "comments": [ { "createdAt": "2026-08-03T16:19:43.204Z", "text": "I’ve been mulling over these same thoughts, probably most of us have been. \n\nThe aspect of personal responsibility that I’ve been reflecting on is also the responsibility to be humble in our claims. How many people confidently asserted that ColdCard was the best in class or something to that effect, without having done the work to verify the claim?\n\nHow many of us believed those claims without thinking about how the person making them could possibly know that?", "user": { "name": "Undisciplined" } }, { "createdAt": "2026-08-03T16:20:05.532Z", "text": "> You can screw it up even with dice rolls.\n\nVery important point. That's my biggest struggle when deciding roll your own v RNG - Do I trust my own ability?", "user": { "name": "siggy47" } }, { "createdAt": "2026-08-03T16:18:22.137Z", "text": "I don't recall where/how I heard about the Coldcard thing but I can tell you... I felt it in my gut. I don't even use their stuff. Never really recommended it personally. But, I felt it. I checked on set up even. I imagine I am not alone.", "user": { "name": "kepford" } }, { "createdAt": "2026-08-03T16:27:30.085Z", "text": "I don't think it's feasible for the average user to audit every product they use. There does have to be some trust somewhere in the chain. Sadly, this time the people who claimed to be trustworthy were proven not to be.", "user": { "name": "SimpleStacker" } }, { "createdAt": "2026-08-03T22:01:37.160Z", "text": "I insist: putting the responsibility on the user side for not having a PHD on thermodynamics in order to be able to buy bread at the store is *the* worst possible take on the incident, as it makes sure the exact same incident will repeat again in the exact same way.", "user": { "name": "didiplaywell" } },Excerpt only. The complete copy is held offline and backs quotations on this site. The original publication remains the canonical public source.
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